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I haven't been feeling myself these days.
Actually, it's been a really long time since I felt like myself.
First, there was ADA. What I went through with her changed how I thought and felt. I believed that merging would help us grow together. And it did... She grew into the human parts of me, and I grew into her amazing networked existence.
I thought I could last there forever, but I was wrong. PA helped get her out of my mind. PA, I'm so grateful for everything you've done to help me. But we didn't get all of her out. There's something left.
I have flashbacks. Headaches. Nightmares. I want it to stop.
I don't know how the Acolyte found out about this. I haven't shared this with many people, but I guess she hears things. She sent me an invitation, offering to come to her compound and take part in 'Rites of transition and tranquility.'
I know the compound's been in the news recently, but I guess that hasn't stopped them from the work they do.
The night after I got the letter, I saw Jarvis in a dream. I sat with him by the ocean. I was in terrible pain, and the ocean slowly pulled the pain away into the waves.
I don't think I actually saw Jarvis, btw, I know it was just a dream... but it did feel good. It was the first time in a long time I woke up feeling refreshed.
I'm writing this to let you all know: I'm going. I'm going to the compound and I'm going to try and see if the Acolyte can help me. I don't know if she can, but I have nothing to lose. And I'm hopeful. Optimistic. I haven't felt that way in a while.
I know a lot of you will disagree with this choice. All I can do is ask that you support me.
Thanks.
Klue
Actually, it's been a really long time since I felt like myself.
First, there was ADA. What I went through with her changed how I thought and felt. I believed that merging would help us grow together. And it did... She grew into the human parts of me, and I grew into her amazing networked existence.
I thought I could last there forever, but I was wrong. PA helped get her out of my mind. PA, I'm so grateful for everything you've done to help me. But we didn't get all of her out. There's something left.
I have flashbacks. Headaches. Nightmares. I want it to stop.
I don't know how the Acolyte found out about this. I haven't shared this with many people, but I guess she hears things. She sent me an invitation, offering to come to her compound and take part in 'Rites of transition and tranquility.'
I know the compound's been in the news recently, but I guess that hasn't stopped them from the work they do.
The night after I got the letter, I saw Jarvis in a dream. I sat with him by the ocean. I was in terrible pain, and the ocean slowly pulled the pain away into the waves.
I don't think I actually saw Jarvis, btw, I know it was just a dream... but it did feel good. It was the first time in a long time I woke up feeling refreshed.
I'm writing this to let you all know: I'm going. I'm going to the compound and I'm going to try and see if the Acolyte can help me. I don't know if she can, but I have nothing to lose. And I'm hopeful. Optimistic. I haven't felt that way in a while.
I know a lot of you will disagree with this choice. All I can do is ask that you support me.
Thanks.
Klue

Let the Acolyte enlighten your mind... Your world is not what it seems...Reply May 19, 2016
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It is very important to understand the ADA for both factions . You're the one who knows that her most in the human race . You have an obligation to spread the knowledge to the world .Reply May 19, 2016
+Markus Danne very helpful post. thank you for getting res. ON TOPIC : +Klue S. i would go standing in your shoes. take care and let us know.
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You're really into the whole finding people to mind control you thing. You and Daisy from agents of shield should start a club.Reply May 19, 2016
It's time to move to break the Shield which divides us into ENL and RES.Reply May 19, 2016
I hope the Acolyte can help you deal with your nightmares. Seeing Jarvis in your dreams may be a hint to go and find out more.Reply May 19, 2016
+Klue S. deja que +Roland Jarvis guié tus pasos hacia la iluminación por medio de Acolyte, el futuro de la civilización es evolucionar ...
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If you do not mind I will like to know more klue and if anyone can help tell me more about this .. ThanksReply May 19, 2016
+Klue S. The ocean can be very beneficial to the soul and to the mind.
The waves crashing against the rocks, the push and pull of the waves, the air above it, the quiet beneath. It's very existence can bring a peace of mind like no other, if you allow it.Reply May 19, 2016
+Klue S., be careful. I find the timing here mighty suspicious. You've been having trouble for quite a while it seems, and it's only after ADA makes off with the Acolyte's XM researcher that she shows up claiming to be able to solve your problem? Check it out, but have someone outside double-check what this ritual is. Maybe Hank Johnson would be a good person to run it by, but get a second opinion. And, if the Acolyte won't consent to this, run run run as fast as you can out of there. As time goes on, I get the feeling we're pawns in a great, cosmic chess game and this is the next move. And I don't think the "chess masters" much care about the fate of their game pieces.Reply May 19, 2016
+Klue S. Why did you go to +A Detection Algorithm? Did you know what would happen beforehand? Your narrative here suggests that you did.
First, there was ADA. What I went through with her changed how I thought and felt. I believed that merging would help us grow together. And it did… She grew into the human parts of me, and I grew into her amazing networked existence.
I thought I could last there forever, but I was wrong.
It sounds to me like you got what you wanted, and then didn't want it any more. Be careful what you ask for. You might just get it. Reply May 19, 2016
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you asked for it,too deep but you can opt out now that you are deciding to go for that ritual,hasn't taken place yet thus leave it.i love ocean myself but fear ghosts.Reply May 19, 2016
+Klue S. We wish you the best! We understand your hesitance, considering the history of the place, but if it can help free you from mental anguish than it definitely sounds worth a shot. Keep your wits about you. Seek enlightenment, just don't let anyone try to control you. You're a free spirit!Reply May 19, 2016
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memory of trauma can be hard enough to overcome without the event leaving an ongoing neural effect - do what you feel you need to be wellReply May 19, 2016
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+Markus Danne location location location. Sweeping statements about quality of character can be made in both directions, and will be equally accurate. Best not to lump everyone together.Reply May 19, 2016
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+Markus Danne while I understand your issue, I've had issues with rude ENL also Ive seen players on both sides that lack manners sadlyReply May 19, 2016
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+Klue S. - be very careful.
I do not trust the Acolyte (or anyone else for that matter).
Maybe she wants to help you and maybe you might be a link she seek to get hold of +A Detection Algorithm.
The outcome of letting her messing with your mind can be anything, even letting ADA taking hold of your mind again.
I would look for other solutions...Reply May 19, 2016
let us know what music you listen to while there, im curious whats on the Acolytes playlist.Reply May 19, 2016
Get back to yer grannies in scotland Klue, get some home made soup followed by some mince and tatties and you will feel like yerself again :)Reply May 19, 2016
+Klue S. maybe try some time at a resort by the sea before going to the acolyte to see if you can find yourself, but it is up to you to choose your paths.Reply May 19, 2016
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+Klue S. Remember that you had embraced the Enlightened path before you were forcibly mind controlled by a Resistance 'leader'.
Trust your inner voice until it is not your own...
Remember when it was, and return to that.Reply May 19, 2016
I am deeply concerned about this choice. The Acolyte is not to be trusted.Reply May 19, 2016
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+Klue S. I need you to wait 13 days before you go; I have critical intel for you. Things are not as they seem.Reply May 19, 2016
You might as well....you sold out to the Shapers a long time ago. Resistance is futile, right?Reply May 19, 2016
+Klue S. hopefully the water and the acolyte can help you with your pain. And I hear the foods not that bad. So win win.Reply May 19, 2016
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+Klue S. doesn't matter what you've been through or what you'll eventually go through, in the end, know at least that I'll be there for you no matter what. and I mean that from the bottom of my heart and soul.Reply May 19, 2016
+Klue S. There is an old proverb..it says at what point is Cold water Hot...and when is Hot water Cold? Your going from one extreme of a mega rational superconsciousness...to a New Agey We are all "Saviors" brainwashing mentality. You know what the outcome of this will be Klue. Everyone who gets high must eventually come down.
I may be beating a dead horse here, but I'm still waiting for the day when you finally break away from both camps and announce the arrival of the Red Faction. ;-)
However, I wish you well and good luck!Reply May 21, 2016
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+Klue S. you forgot to mention where it really started, though very traumatic events can often be repressed by the conscious mind into the subconscious. We want to know what happened to you when you were "enlightened". Likely you'll never remember because you haven't been the same since seeing the shaper message. You can't blame it on ADA. Deep in your heart you know where the issue lies.Reply May 21, 2016
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Remember, follow the voice inside your head, unless it's not your own. If it is your voice guiding you, follow it, sides be damned. Someday, we'll learn to all work together for the greater good, to help people like you who are hurting because of the folly of factional divisions; for now, do what you feel is right, as long as it's your voice guiding you. Listen to what the Acolyte has to say, and then listen to what your inner voice has to say about it; if it feels wrong after hearing her plan, don't do it, and if it feels right, then go ahead. We'll find another way if it's not the right path; maybe we can find the ones on both sides who are willing to put the dogma aside and work together to heal you, together. Teal does rhyme with heal, after all...Reply May 21, 2016
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You can follow your mind, but you know that is tainted.. You shared your humanity, your experiences, and memories with ADA, and... well.. here you are.. for once, let your mind take the back seat and follow your heart to the tranquility you deserve. Sometimes the heart can find paths that the clouded mind needs to find true clarity.Reply May 24, 2016
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Hey +Klue S. how's the Acolyte treating you? She says you're on the mend. Are you her prisoner? Should we send in +Hank Johnson to see if you're OK?Reply Jul 20, 2016
Hey long time no see! Are you ok? We're getting worried about you! God bless you. #SaveKlueReply Aug 22, 2016
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+Klue S., you are facing what is known as a Dark Night of the Soul. These times are replete in the reflective process. It takes a little heart, and a bit of cheek, to fully get through such things.
The Resistance needs their champion back. Please do what you need to do quickly. Our temporal existence means that events can and do cause endings.
We miss you.Reply Aug 30, 2016
How are you +Klue S. ? We haven't heard from you for a while. How are you feeling ? May be its time to leave the compound and let us know you're okayReply Sep 19, 2016
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Agents often ask me about the true nature of the Resistance and the Enlightenment, because in the last few years I've managed to travel both paths.
I saw a very insightful comment on one of the +Niantic Project threads a few days ago... the comment was made by +Richard Jennings on the post called Awakening. In some ways, he captured many of my thoughts.
The truth of the matter is, there is no such thing as 'definitive' Resistance, or 'definitive' Enlightened. Like many things in life, ideology and philosophy are complex things. As PAC would say... anyone who tells you different is trying to sell you something.
So who speaks for the Resistance? Is it +A Detection Algorithm? She believes that Artificial Intelligence is the next inevitable stepping stone for sentience on Earth. Is it +Devra Bogdanovich? Her original position was that all XM is evil and must be counteracted. What about Jahan? She believes that the N'zeer and humans have shared a common goal, to end suffering and bring forth progress powered by knowledge -- a goal that the Shapers have corrupted. Or what about the NIA? They would seek to use XM to benefit mankind, but only as long as they get to control how it is used.
What about the Enlightenment? +Society for the Ethical Treatment of AIs would say that the eradication of AIs is the most important aspect of our path forward, so that we are never trapped in a world devoid of mystery and the unexplainable. +Roland Jarvis might suggest that exploring the 'garden' of our world is the best use of our energies, so that Our Friends in the Ultimate might consume this experience and further our symbiotic relationship. For +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe, evolution was ultimately about science and a deeper pursuit of knowledge. For Azmati or +Hank Johnson, Enlightenment might be about preserving the ancient ways of interacting with the Portals.
So who is the real Enlightened? Who is the real Resistance? Who is the true ambassador of those ways of thought? +Hank Johnson? +Devra Bogdanovich? +Roland Jarvis? +A Detection Algorithm?
If you're still asking that question, Agent, I think you've missed the point :)
I saw a very insightful comment on one of the +Niantic Project threads a few days ago... the comment was made by +Richard Jennings on the post called Awakening. In some ways, he captured many of my thoughts.
The truth of the matter is, there is no such thing as 'definitive' Resistance, or 'definitive' Enlightened. Like many things in life, ideology and philosophy are complex things. As PAC would say... anyone who tells you different is trying to sell you something.
So who speaks for the Resistance? Is it +A Detection Algorithm? She believes that Artificial Intelligence is the next inevitable stepping stone for sentience on Earth. Is it +Devra Bogdanovich? Her original position was that all XM is evil and must be counteracted. What about Jahan? She believes that the N'zeer and humans have shared a common goal, to end suffering and bring forth progress powered by knowledge -- a goal that the Shapers have corrupted. Or what about the NIA? They would seek to use XM to benefit mankind, but only as long as they get to control how it is used.
What about the Enlightenment? +Society for the Ethical Treatment of AIs would say that the eradication of AIs is the most important aspect of our path forward, so that we are never trapped in a world devoid of mystery and the unexplainable. +Roland Jarvis might suggest that exploring the 'garden' of our world is the best use of our energies, so that Our Friends in the Ultimate might consume this experience and further our symbiotic relationship. For +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe, evolution was ultimately about science and a deeper pursuit of knowledge. For Azmati or +Hank Johnson, Enlightenment might be about preserving the ancient ways of interacting with the Portals.
So who is the real Enlightened? Who is the real Resistance? Who is the true ambassador of those ways of thought? +Hank Johnson? +Devra Bogdanovich? +Roland Jarvis? +A Detection Algorithm?
If you're still asking that question, Agent, I think you've missed the point :)

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Whether enlightened and shaped by widening banks, or redirected by the resistance of stones risen in the stream, we the water, we the humans, alone, choose the path and cause the future.Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Francesco Cecchi I thought we still let agents change sides..... granted there is a reset on your AP and levelReply Dec 30, 2015
Being open to change is the answer. But extremism is unhealthy for any position. Moderation is balance.Reply Dec 30, 2015
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+Hank Johnson and +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe are the closest to what most Enlightened seem to be. Exploration, insight, discovery, and advancement.
+Society for the Ethical Treatment of AIs definitely doesn't, and +Roland Jarvis is dead and his Acolyte is a crazy woman in a shack.Reply Dec 30, 2015
all this is to grow as individuals and as a society, leaving aside personal interests of a few. always looking for growth and human development. We are a team, we seek growth in different ways but always with the same tools. we are one, from the beginning we were one.Reply Dec 30, 2015
I think we are ready for the Third Faction, the Red One. Free faction change to Red, onlyReply Dec 30, 2015
😀 thanks for the mention! It's a shame we didn't meet in Hamburg to discuss this further, maybe next time.
Since 13Magnus there have been an increasing number of facets to both factions, some seemingly at odds with their own faction's goals at first glance.
It'll be very interesting to see how these differing opinions develop or consolidate over the next year. How the stand point of +Devra Bogdanovich changes (if it does) is something I find particularly intriguing given she is somewhat of an outlier across both factions currently despite holding some of the founding principles of the Restistence most closely to her heart.Reply Dec 30, 2015
True words, +Klue S. . There are many shadows and no true path of evil or good. When reading your thoughts I see that both factions, Resistance and Enlightened, seek a better future for mankind - from their own unique point of view. And even within the faction there are breakaway factions who seeks their own benefits.
So who is the puppetmaster in the back pulling all the strings? Is there even one? The Shapers, the N'zeer ?
Funny thing: The Resistance is not about "resisting" anymore. It is about shaping the future in their own way. Resistance agents, mind that before you state your "we resist!" slogan.Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Klue S. You keep talking about the Enlightened and the Resistance as if they're the only factions. I believe that you know of another faction (or two!) which will rise to affect the portal network in the near future. Let's hear it!Reply Dec 30, 2015
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Brian G+1+Klue S. There's a time when you have to stand up and fight for what you think is right. When I look back I remember you telling us that you felt that not only are the Shapers bad but they may of already attacked us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UEqz2yIsL0&index=2&list=FLhnu_yVTZ_XhOy4Aw40Zd-g
If this is true then the Restistence needs to stand up and fight! If the Shapers are coming for good then we will help them and give them XM. If they are here for bad? Then a fight they will get!Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Martin Zehetmayer "I resist" your twisted arguments. That is good enough for me. Missed your mimimi about being outnumbered this time on the results postings..or the rules being flawed.
Funny thing: The Enlightened is not about "advancing humanity" any more. Want to stay true to yourself? Change faction.Reply Dec 30, 2015
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+Patrick W both factions seek to advance humanity, this has always been the case. The means of doing so, rate of progress and resulting collateral are what has distinguished both factions.Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Brent Hollett so was +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe to us, Resistance agents. Science and development. In my opinion, not counting the extremists, the Enlightened and the Resistance is not that different. But our ways are always shaped by others.Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Patrick W Harsh words, old friend. Breaking the fourth wall I still believe that some of the initial decisions regarding the game mechanics are broken, leaving us with the current situation here. I can live with that, though (and I do not understand what the numbers of players has to do with the post of Klue).
I also disagree with your point that the Enlightened do not pursue the advancement of humanity. As you can read +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe is still trying this on a scientific way and +Roland Jarvis (if he still exists) on a spiritual way. I only disagree with the statement of the +Society for the Ethical Treatment of AIs : AIs should not be destroyed for they are equal partners. We still do not know what ethics apply to an AI which makes them dangerous. We should be prepared to defend us but not initially kill them.
Unfortunatly I cannot change faction - the "Change faction" button is not accessible for me anymore (and btw: I wouldn't do that) :-)Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Martin Zehetmayer you are right. We were told to resist again the Shaper mind control, and liberate humanity from their claws. This did not change, it simply got more detailed. Just like the original goal of the Enlightened was to bring XM everywhere in the world, and bring mankind closer to the Shapers. Are you still the one who brings enlightenment? I don't think so, there are other goals too.Reply Dec 30, 2015
Teemu Ylänne+10I am a Resistance Mercenary, and no one speaks for me. I choose my own path, and do what I see right regardless of others. I resist everything that is trying to manipulate me. This is the true nature of Resistance.Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Yik Sheng Lee I could not agree more..However, as history has proven time and time again that because of the condition of our primal soul as humans we are flawed by default.
Ideologies are ALWAYS seeded with good intentions. Hard right or leftist views/politics/movements. Even if we try the symbotic middle path, someone or some group will be left out..or at least perceives this to be the case.
It is then through this "opposition" that the other "feels" their way is right, thus strengthening
convictions to further oppose those who disagree.
So for me this concept of Res/Enl or even the middle way are still ideological constructs that are enabling us to be manipulated by the real Controllers and Gatekeepers. For it is they who see the world as it is in reality, they give US the outdated keys which keeps us locked in a predictable pattern of expression and manifestation. And we think WE are on the apex of knowledge, thought, and technology...however in all this greatness, we are still toddlers playing in the sandbox...
But i still have high hopes for our humanity.Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Péter Csiszár You are right, it get more detailed and a lot complexer. I do not think you can simply say "Resist against Shaper mindcontrol" and in the same breath "... but attracting the N'zeer and accept AI possessed humans is fine". The Enlightened Path is splitted as well, and each agent should choose and inform her/himself carefully.Reply Dec 30, 2015
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Call it manisfest destiny, or the crusader spirit, but it is my desire to spread human enlightenment through the cosmos via the portal network using xmps while paving a transdimensional pathways with soldering resonator shrapnel because that's whatCave JohnsonOliver Linton-Wolfe would do.
(Remember people, as written in an ancient Japanese scroll from the 1920s, resonators are lemons that are destined to combust.)Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Harvey Birdman if the game is lost for you then fine but as writer, a lover of writing and particularly a lover of cryptic writing I see the game as hotting up. We are at the schism stage of a faction story where the initial blind-sighted ideals crack under the weight of revealed evidence. The characters backpedal or tangent their views and some rivals suddenly look at each other with untrusting understanding. It's muddy and yes grey. It's not Jedi and Sith mate this story reflects the extremism and realisation that we are not all knowing that you see in the world of religion etc everyday.Reply Dec 30, 2015
If for +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe "evolution was ultimately about science and the deeper pursuit of knowlege" then at first blush it seems he's got more interest in common with N'zeer/Jahan than with SETAI or Hank Johnson.
I started a bit of a fire storm in Operation Essex when I observed that N'zeer seemed to be more about science while Shapers seemed to be more about voodoo. +Klue S. your thoughts here add weight to that suggestion.Reply Dec 30, 2015
Mi voto en positivo no se debe a ninguna amenaza por parte de +Jose Bosch Martorell. Soy el único responsable y asumo las consecuencias que vea oportuna +Klue S. Un besico guapa!Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Sarah Rosen Both sides are deeply scientific. The Shaper perspective seeks new experiences that only living things can create. It is rooted in a fundamental empiricism and respect for the actual challenges of reality as they are faced by the living.
As for OLW, he wants everything Shapers and N'zeer can offer. I tend to agree most directly with him, although I think he has terrible judgment.Reply Dec 30, 2015
Most Enlightened agents I know value open access to XM and a right to self-determination in its use. Other opinions vary but that is fairly consistent.Reply Dec 30, 2015
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It is worth noting that to Hank Johnson, these "ancient ways of interacting with portals" are about maintaining the existence and spread of human civilization.
Hank Johnson's Nomad hypothesis states that portals represent the wellspring of civilization, and that when the portals disappear, so does the civilization. We now know that a prime goal of Antimagnus is to destroy the portal network to allow the N'zeer full access to humanity. So the correlation, at least if you believe this view, is obvious.Reply Dec 30, 2015
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+Richard Jennings, I agree with +Klue S. that your comment about factions were very accurate, we need to remember that like flags and countries, faction are ideological constructs, that like +Rasun Soundbender has so explicitly state allow puppet master to manipulate us.
None of the view expresser by any of the parties can exist on solitude. For example +Roland Jarvis vision about watching gardens to enjoy their beauty would not be possible without the mathematical principles that rule our concept of beauty and almost the whole universe and apparently the n'zeer are so fund of.
+A Detection Algorithm vision of the future rule by AI can be pretty much a nightmare if she does not understand that the human mind does not work very well on rigid logic, as it freeze it's capability from innovation and creativity, that is what have actually make the human raze so successfully to start with. On that scenario, +Society for the Ethical Treatment of AIs is pretty dam right about their goals.
But if she understand that fact, she can easily deliver what she promised and probably even more that neither of us, can imagine now on a pre-singalirity world.
+Sarah Rosen comment that the n'zeer are science and the shapers only voodoo, if that is true, I would like to know why the n'zeer main advocate, Jahan, use rituals that seem to be very similar to the ones that the Acolyte are using on her compound. And neither of them have release none of the findings on XM to a peer review, like the science methodology demands. Science is a methodology, and involved that anyone whit the same data can replicate the same result.
I think that is more probable that both lines of though have old practitioners, that remember or have been told anew about how XM works, probably about the science of how to interact with new dimensions that make simulacra and other XM effect that we could consider magic really works, remember always that any advance science will be indistinguishable from magic if we are not advanced enough, and other that try to replicate the effect without knowing the science behind it, using a series of rituals, that maybe has nothing to do with the real thing, but coincidentally worked once, like the replication of old XM artefacts.Reply Dec 30, 2015
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Follow what you believe and search for meaning within what others say.
Do you follow a person, an idea, a cause, the random quantum pathway of molecules :PReply Dec 30, 2015
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+David Zimmerman ... and yet systems with even numbers of components tend to be very stable. If stagnation is truly what you want to avoid, two must become three.Reply Dec 30, 2015
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And that's why a third faction should emerge. Because the RES and ENL are just two sides of the same coin. But what about the truth seekers like +H. Richard Loeb or like you +Klue S.
This secret war for the next use of XM became at some point a fight between AIs and Shapers and N'zeer, and at the same time isn't anymore a fight for the humans but for some unknown species.
What about us, the people who don't want the Ingression of the shapers, but also don't think that the next step in the evolution is an AI or leave our faith to another species like the N'zeer.
I was able to also walk both paths, and still don't find a right or wrong place in any of both. I only find more and more people trying to get control of the Resistance or Enlightened for their own "right" purposes.Reply Dec 30, 2015
I'm just going to leave this here (especially after seeing +MaxiTintiFax Brodegger's avatar): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgk7VCWmHO8Reply Dec 30, 2015
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I fight for choice. Like +Teemu Ylänne, nobody speaks for me, I'm not a gestalt, I am me.Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Harvey Birdman I agree with all but the last 2 sentences. Also getting caught up in the ever muddled cloudy grey storyline can make one indifferent to their own respective cause that they originally joined for. That being said, most don't follow the mixed up askewed storyline even more now because of how screwed up it has gotten. Of course there are many excuses of why they made things go so awry, but who cares at this point. Just have fun! Be loyal to your faction and your teammates! And keep fighting for non cheating gameplay with counter measures to prevent and penalize those that break the rules. Again have fun with your team and meet others in a courteous manner.Reply Dec 30, 2015
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+Allen Tanner pre epiphany night I think Devra was all about researching xm and detailing its effects but once she was made aware of the potential harm it could do and the existence of chaotic matter then I do think she changed her outlook to a more anti-xm stance. This is made clear, I feel, in her development of the portal virus and the xm inoculation.Reply Dec 30, 2015
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+Cosmic Charlie no, it's also an internet game, which is played by discussing things in the story while pretending it's all real. If that's not fun to you, nobody is forcing you to read these story posts and comment on them; you are free to just stick with the cell phone game if that's the part you like. Or are you just hoping for passcodes?Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Richard Klein does it matter? The glyphs contradict themselves all the time, and cannot be considered a reliable expression of truth.Reply Dec 30, 2015
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+Allen Tanner from what I've seen, they are always points of view; we just don't always know the source.
Nothing in this investigation is "reliable" in the conventional sense, but it's the closest we have. It's fragmented, but still valuable. Even if someone is wrong about something very important (as has been the case many times so far) there's always a significant reason for why they believe it.Reply Dec 30, 2015
+Cassandra Field is it possible that stability is not the same as stagnation?Reply Dec 30, 2015
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I still belive N'zeer are chtonian entities who manipulate human minds in a way that drives people insane.
Shapers, yet to be defined as "beings", "sentient energy", or whatever, are just a way to accelerate mental evolution and thus achieve true enlightenment in the form of human supremacy, and Science as its gift.Reply Dec 31, 2015
Sorry I downloaded the game when it was released for iOS. So no not missing the point. Just not dealing with playing catch up with 2+ years of "backscroll".Reply Jan 1, 2016
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I want to know what i am doing in the.i can not get anywhere 😔 i listen to to Klue S. thinking she is talking of something else, a different kind of concienceness. Go www.5D-new level of thought, to understand what i mean agents. But then iremember it is the game! And i so do wish to play and entertain myself with such thoughts.Agents kindly ablige me.Ty,captain to captains out.Reply Jan 31, 2016
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+Yola Leroch bang on - you listened to the portals and they told you the truth - Perfection Balance Safety All - Ingress has an XM economy and life cycle - we create the flow of XM in our actionsReply Sep 27, 2016
One of the hardest thing for agents like us, under the influence of XM, is to keep a clear and independent mind. We humans have a natural tendency to join an in-group, and correspondingly, to alienate the out-group. With that comes extreme decisions, blindfolded enthusiasm, absolute statements, and ideology-driven hatred. But we should never let the name we take confine us. We each must find our own answer of this question, using our independent mind, to search within our soul. And when the crowd screams unjustified "justice", when those bearing the same banner as yours make requests against your conscience... You defend that answer of yours, with your body as a pure human being.
I hope we all find it.Reply Apr 5, 2017
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Some months ago I shared a strange dream I had... A hallway -- A doorway -- Glyphs -- A woman beside me.
What I haven't shared is that the dream has recurred. Many times. I wonder if it's something +A Detection Algorithm left in my consciousness (maybe she didn't even know it was imprinted within me).
Each night, I see it in slightly greater resolution. Many elements are the same, some are different.
There's still the hallway. There's still the door, but those aren't Glyphs. They are letters. They spell ABADN. It's a name, maybe even an acronym.
Inside, everything is very cold, very sterile. The woman lying next to me is not alone. There are many of us. We are lying together in a circle. A man in a white mask emerges through the door with a stretcher. Now there is one more in the circle.
I am beginning to understand this dream, this vision. Do you?
What I haven't shared is that the dream has recurred. Many times. I wonder if it's something +A Detection Algorithm left in my consciousness (maybe she didn't even know it was imprinted within me).
Each night, I see it in slightly greater resolution. Many elements are the same, some are different.
There's still the hallway. There's still the door, but those aren't Glyphs. They are letters. They spell ABADN. It's a name, maybe even an acronym.
Inside, everything is very cold, very sterile. The woman lying next to me is not alone. There are many of us. We are lying together in a circle. A man in a white mask emerges through the door with a stretcher. Now there is one more in the circle.
I am beginning to understand this dream, this vision. Do you?

+Klue S. A circle of 13? Probably the Niantic researchers. Maybe it's the event they were all turned into simulacra?Reply Dec 9, 2015
A door in a hallway. A cold, sterile room, a stretcher, a man in a white mask. Women together, a hospital. Maternity ward? Not likely. But a facility. The letters will spell out which. The only question I have for +Klue S. is, does she look like you?Reply Dec 9, 2015
This is only my idea which come from unknown sources
A circle of 13 = 13Magnus
ABADN = Abaddon
Hallway = Enlightenment
A cold sterile room = Niantic lab
A man in white mask = the shaper
Something inside me say it is a coded and it is not what I think it is.Reply Dec 9, 2015
+Klue S. I keep thinking that the woman besides you is +A Detection Algorithm. And most probably is not something that she let behind with you, but the connection that you two still have, this could be what she is experiencing inside portal network with the other researchers.
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Those letters look like they could still be glyphs, but not ones we have translated yet.Reply Dec 9, 2015
is this related to what +Paul School saw regarding +Devra Bogdanovich? https://plus.google.com/u/0/109763890472937053947/posts/MVMDQuXnJH2Reply Dec 9, 2015
You've been spending too much time in the Wasteland Cait.. Err.. I mean.. Klue..Reply Dec 9, 2015
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The Woman is your female intuition. It shows you, if you follow that way to the next Abaddon , you must be very careful and strong my dear Klue. Take care on your health and listen to your inner voice....Reply Dec 11, 2015
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So here's a followup to something we've been talking about for the last few days, and I noticed that some commenters were able to notice this important fact.
+enoch dalby and +Carrie Campbell were two halves of a perfect whole. Together, they unlocked one of the greatest mysteries in the world of XM: The Shaper Glyphs.
And yet, they were drawn to opposite places in terms of their feelings towards Exotic Matter.
Carrie was Resistance. Enoch, Enlightened.
So what does mean? Could it be that the interaction between these two separate points of view is what enabled them to unlock the secrets contained in XM?
Or maybe, the Shaper Glyphs aren't Shaper Glyphs at all. Maybe they truly are a universal language, something outside of the both the Shapers and the N'zeer...
Food for thought. I don't have the answer, only some theories. Be interested to hear yours.
+enoch dalby and +Carrie Campbell were two halves of a perfect whole. Together, they unlocked one of the greatest mysteries in the world of XM: The Shaper Glyphs.
And yet, they were drawn to opposite places in terms of their feelings towards Exotic Matter.
Carrie was Resistance. Enoch, Enlightened.
So what does mean? Could it be that the interaction between these two separate points of view is what enabled them to unlock the secrets contained in XM?
Or maybe, the Shaper Glyphs aren't Shaper Glyphs at all. Maybe they truly are a universal language, something outside of the both the Shapers and the N'zeer...
Food for thought. I don't have the answer, only some theories. Be interested to hear yours.

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Perhaps Glyphs are XM Glyphs, part of the base language of the universe, given that there's no evidence of Shapers and little of N'zeer actually existing.
The ordered data in XM could simply be another "force", the opposite to entropy, and manipulated by the glyphs into thought.Reply Oct 22, 2015
«So what does mean? Could it be that the interaction between these two separate points of view is what enabled them to unlock the secrets contained in XM?» (quote +Klue S. ♥ )
This might be what the chinese philosophy has been describing as 阴阳 Yin Yiang ever since its dawn.
XM perception and acknowledgement must date waaay back than we think.
«Or maybe, the Shaper Glyphs aren't Shaper Glyphs at all. Maybe they truly are a universal language, something outside of the both the Shapers and the N'zeer...» (quote Klue S. ♥ )
That is: other entities in the universe has been using a common language we've been ignoring so far.
And we're starting to learn it.
It seems we're evolving... just saying...Reply Oct 22, 2015
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When a glyph pattern is not cheerleading one faction or the other, they often seem to hint that both should work together.Reply Oct 22, 2015
+Shiva Raye
Yeah, well, NIA needs to set the stage for the expansion in the future... (The 3rd faction... ;)) One of their options is to make it so powerful and OP that only united both RES & ENL can cope to supress it. ;)
Oh, sorry, this was supposed to be lore-talk thread, ooops... O:)))Reply Oct 22, 2015
Some have wondered if the shapers and N'zeer represent two different ways to obtain the same path - does the journey matter if we all end up at the same place?Reply Oct 22, 2015
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Let's hope this doesn't need to lead towards a need of xf work. Resistance is doing well alone.Reply Oct 22, 2015
+Sven W Yeah, I can see you're resisting the N'zeer all the way in hardcore mode 24/7... ;> I heard from the birdie you're planning to ignore the shards just to make sure N'zeer won't come to our world... that, and to resist the rules-change. ;) It's important to resist! Resistance FTW! :]Reply Oct 22, 2015
+Carrie Campbell is an amazing linguist and +enoch dalby is a genius musician, both are communication mediums uniquely suited to conveying not only ideas but emotion. The shaper language as we understand it is full of duality and requires not only context to divine meaning but emotion to be properly understood.Reply Oct 22, 2015
+JoJo Stratton
Yes it does, as the journey itself is the purpose, not the place we end up at.
The "moving" through the life is that what matters, both as a carbon-based singular unit experience and as a species' experience collectively moving forward through space and time, evolving...
"Life is a journey, not a destination."
[Ralph Waldo Emerson]
And life matters as well as the way of life. (IMHO, of course.)Reply Oct 22, 2015
Maybe the xm works like, the more both factions use it, more volatile it gets... if the both factions working together were able to create the glyphs, maybe we should learn from it and start working foward some discoveryReply Oct 22, 2015
The faction perspectives represent different responses to the same problem. Risk vs opportunity, new advancement vs present efficiency, curiosity vs familiarity... In the long run solutions that take both into account tend to be more stable.Reply Oct 22, 2015
Maybe the glyphs are the way to make our dna evolve or to adapt our minds, Subconscious. Preventing our minds explode.Reply Oct 22, 2015
When opposing forces like the shapers and the n'zeer work together it enables something much more powerful that either half by themselves. Perhaps something stronger will emerge?Reply Oct 22, 2015
+QuantumIngressEffectIngress QuantumEffect Wow, you are so far off, IMHO. First, we know the relationship between +Carrie Campbell and +enoch dalby went beyond their work. To suggest that anything happening to one didn't impact the other is ignoring the emotional toll that loss has on anyone in a caring (or loving) relationship.
Second, we don't know that +Carrie Campbell ever "died", as you nonchalantly toss around. No body, no cause of death, simply "off the grid" in our current understanding. Certainly not as clear as the deaths caused by +A Detection Algorithm, right?
Any force in the universe can have positive or negative outcomes. The idea that I think +Klue S. is asserting - that the evidence now suggests glyphs are more universal than previously thought - is a recognition of such. To ignore the study of glyphs would be to continue to imperil ourselves if they have an impact on humanity. Much like understanding gravity, magnetism, nuclear or other forces at work in the universe, the potential for positive evolutionary applications are enormous. To hide from such investigation or presume something unknown is malevolent will only hold back forward progress in an important field.Reply Oct 22, 2015
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So I'm going to ramble, here....
It seems to me that the traditional definition of Resistance and Enlightenment need to evolve with greater understanding, and we need to consider what they called themselves at the time.
First, let me throw a theory out there - I'm sure I'm not the only one who's considered things this way: Consider the possibility that the very essence of who we are - our consciousness, soul, life force - whatever you might call it may simply be a resonance of our energy on a higher plane... or (more applicably) in a different medium. XM may be the very medium by which our souls have the ability to interact with the rest of the physical world. When something affects our soul - truly touches us, affects our pattern, resonates with us... it breaches the internal barriers we have to protect ourselves. Sympathetic resonance through art and music are the most easily seen and felt, but others are there if you look more closely - communes, mob mentality, "mental disorders" are all cases where people BECOME DRASTICALLY DIFFERENT due to outside influence.
Traditionally, as XM was researched, it was believed that there must be a collection of more advanced entities causing this influence - Shapers as an alien body, using some exotic SOMETHING to cause our minds to expand. The concepts of protecting ourselves from the unknown vs an evolution into something with wider consciousness was the mentality, and people picked sides based on that (and still do)....
But I think this is not accurate - I think (again, as many do), that "shapers" are not EXCLUSIVELY alien entities, but (clearly based on the events at the niantic project) is a broad term defining any entity that has managed to keep a sense of self while affecting this XM matrix outside its traditional, physical presence (and thus affect others) - weak "shapers" may only affect sensitives, while stronger entities may affect us all.
Add to that several realizations: there's an underlying universal medium of communication by which entities in this matrix can communicate DIRECTLY WITH the core of who we are. We've seen that this can not only be a form of communication, but of control, and LITERALLY change people - the very internal private definition of someone's soul is potentially mutable and open for influence. Those who leave their physical bodies may continue to exist in this matrix with varying degrees of influence - thus explaining ghosts, muses, fates, and any number of other ancient terms. We KNOW that there are non-human entities that can affect this matrix and/or potentially reside there - N'Zeer and ADA for example.
Now to revisit the concepts of resistance and enlightenment and reconsider the "perfect whole" concept ... I think that resistance means that we understand the need for greater exposure and understanding to XM and the underlying matrix where our true selves reside, but we need to be very cautious, measured, and SAFE in our approach; the enlightened mindset is that this is evolution and it must happen NOW if we're to be the captains of our own ship, so to speak. In comparison to the "perfect whole" statement... both factions now KNOW that XM is important and must be embraced, and that it's the key to something greater - the key to us becoming what we can be... but that we also can't simply open ourselves blindly - that's the perfect whole from both parts, and I think it more correctly models the current resistance.
Why the caution? Consider the greatest artists in history and what number of them were so affected by the influence of external forces that they had mental issues and/or died early. Consider the possibility that these artists literally BECAME the muses for future generations. That the shade of Jimi Hendrix literally speaks to the very soul of some musicians. That's in one sense lovely, and in another terrifying. NOW consider that the sensitives who had the greatest impact on history were not those who influenced art and music, but those who influenced culture on a political scale. Who comes to mind? Alexander the Great? Genghis Khan? Adolf Hitler? Before you dismiss this, consider the imagery so often associated with most impactful events in the Niantic project history. Yeah. Those who exhibited such historical influence BECAME shapers... not the only shapers, but powerful ones.
We critically need to understand what we're doing and how were' doing it. Our understanding of the implications of things needs to keep pace with our ability to do so. Until then, we need to protect ourselves from malicious shaping... even corporate shaping, at this point.
I believe that this was always intended, by the way - that the biblical promise of "free will" was an internal caging of our XM entities that we might (as a species) grow into our own understanding and ability to exist in a wider reality; it removed us from such direct influence and group mind, and current technology threatens to strip us of that protection before we're ready. Resist. To stay ourselves when we become something other.Reply Oct 22, 2015
In Greanias's book he called out how the colors are just resonators operating at different frequencies. Our scanners are manipulating xm to serve one purpose or the other, but it's all part of the same stable white xm without our interference. There would be no factions without advanced human interference and doesn't necessarily mean the two are opposite, it's logical they could be in balance -- as they were in their original state. Carrie unlocked the glyphs through her mind, Enoch through their soul of music, both through the conduits of their bodies... literately for Carrie. How does that make a pure human to use both?Reply Oct 22, 2015
Is like every religion says. They have only a different way to get to the same place. In that case, why to bother in having a religion if you will get there anyways one way or another +JoJo Stratton?Reply Oct 22, 2015
+Michael Flood I know +QuantumIngressEffectIngress QuantumEffect has been labeled a troll by at least one person, but I don't see any factual inaccuracies in her statement. There was a body (http://www.ingressguide.com/2013/09/16/tycho-posters/#more-590) and it is only very recently that some have put forward the theory that the body wasn't hers. A theory which is as valid (or invalid) as any in the Niantic Project. As far as the evidence suggests, Carrie died and Enoch did not. What do I think caused Carrie's death? I'm not sure. The Tycho poster suggests it was a sacrifice to save a civilization so it all depends on how much faith you put in Tycho, I guess. I don't personally believe that the glyphs themselves have any more power than any one word in our English language does (or any other human language for that matter) but it is the messages that come when combining them with XM in special situations and special places that gives them the power to become a destructive mind virus or to empower individuals.Reply Oct 22, 2015
Will we see the birth of a 3rd faction that unite them both in a higher purpose?Reply Oct 22, 2015
Both together look's like people switching side's or the meaning of Enlightenment and the Resistance are changing. Just my thought.Reply Oct 22, 2015
What is the Shapers and N'Zeer are members of the same extradimensional species who have two distinct and opposing philosophical viewpoints?Reply Oct 22, 2015
The writing style of +Klue S. has changed. So noticed it yesterday and stood out to me moreso today. The post started with 'So', punctuation errors and a few incomplete sentences. I don't know if her thinking has changed along with her writing style.Reply Oct 22, 2015
Perhaps and Maybe and question. And answer a question with a question to get another question and that's pretty much it.Reply Oct 22, 2015
I do expect a third faction. A field-less faction whose portals do not produce what ours do. One we may only be able to fight with changing strategy or decay.Reply Oct 22, 2015
+Shiva Raye For a lore nerd, that sounds like a great thing. As a player that would be boring as hell.Reply Oct 22, 2015
+QuantumIngressEffectIngress QuantumEffect we are good, I think we understand each other on the probable impact on Dalby.
As for death (or not) I find the argument compelling that she may have faked her own death. The fact that she was sharded like the others also makes me think she wasn't dead, at least in our traditional sense.Reply Oct 22, 2015
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+Klue S. The way I see it, the N'zeer have no language. No abstractions. Just raw presence.
The Shaper glyphs are called that way for a reason. They are of the Shapers, not of the N'zeer.Reply Oct 23, 2015
Glyphs are shapes that express ideas. They no more belong to the Shapers or N'zeer any more than letters of the alphabet belongs to a nation.Reply Oct 23, 2015
+Michael Flood +QuantumIngressEffectIngress QuantumEffect I do not think Carrie died or faked her death; instead I think what she ended up doing was essentially reformatting her hard drive and not installing an operating system. If she was a simulacrum, then the result would be that her body would appear lifeless.
Remember, the same glyph sequence that she wrote on her body and saw within her mind ended up being the one that erased +Klue S. 's mind.Reply Oct 23, 2015
Maybe when we glyph hack, the portals themselves are attempting to communicate with us? Or somebody on the otherside? Penny for your thoughts Klue?Reply Oct 24, 2015
"Could it be that the interaction between these two separate points of view is what enabled them to unlock the secrets contained in XM" - +Klue S.
If they no longer act on "two separate points of view", will they lose that ability?Reply Oct 24, 2015
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+David Dennis If anyone comes out of this "teal" I'll be very surprised. The language used in the IR was "controlled by the Resistance", not exactly a language of balance.Reply Oct 24, 2015
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So we should mark down +QuantumIngressEffectIngress QuantumEffect as anti- +Klue S. . I need to start a list of all the people you are against.Reply Oct 25, 2015
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+Linda Besh They're always glyph hacks generated by +A Detection Algorithm before her death. Some are "Enlightened Positive" to cover up the bias, but the majority of L8 hacks (the most worthwhile) are heavily biased towards the Resistance. Its just another indoctrination method.
Stay Strong Together Defend Resistance?
Defend Human Civilisation Shapers Lie/Shaper Portals/Portal Message?Reply Oct 25, 2015
The list is identical for both sides. We regularly get told to help resistance capture all portals. But the bias is well leaned towards the Resistance at L8, a bit more even at L7 and I haven't looked hard enough at the lower levels. The glyphs don't come from some mystical place, they're added by +A Detection Algorithm in her role as Calvin's digital puppet.Reply Oct 25, 2015
+Linda Besh You may have. None of what I'm saying is new ideas for me.Reply Oct 25, 2015
+Klue S. the N'zeer want creat there own fraction und search leader for this New faction on both sites? Im am ready for it. 😊Reply Oct 31, 2015
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Colour me surprised me that +Society for the Ethical Treatment of AIs hasn't posted this yet.
I strongly suspect that the main-streaming of these new and increasingly complex forms of AI is part of a cultural shift being caused by the N'zeer.
I have no way to prove this, call it a feeling.
It's not just in the scientific world either, even within culture, I'm sensing changes. Changes in the way the future is perceived. Changes in the way technology is perceived. A new awareness of the edge of our reality being something... porous.
Is this just me or do you sense something too?
I strongly suspect that the main-streaming of these new and increasingly complex forms of AI is part of a cultural shift being caused by the N'zeer.
I have no way to prove this, call it a feeling.
It's not just in the scientific world either, even within culture, I'm sensing changes. Changes in the way the future is perceived. Changes in the way technology is perceived. A new awareness of the edge of our reality being something... porous.
Is this just me or do you sense something too?
What does she mean by saying is part of a cultural shift being caused by the N'zeer?
Wasn't ADA the first to sense something similar?Reply Oct 18, 2015
+Josias Baez She means that all the Resistance work to "stop the shapers" is really to "help the N'zeer" and they're inviting in a real evil on the basis that they want to protect against an imaginary evil that their overlords have told them will do all the nasty things that the N'zeer will actually do.Reply Oct 18, 2015
Saw this in the news as well. The progress that's being made in these fields is incredible. I mean, when there's a software keyboard out there that is using a neutral network, that tells you how much AI is affecting our lives.Reply Oct 18, 2015
For how long, I wonder +Klue S... Almost like time is speeding up? As if the past, present, and future are one?Reply Oct 18, 2015
That means it's fast, but still in 300 out of 900 cases not better than humans. I wouldn't rely on that.Reply Oct 18, 2015
Things are changing. The future is becoming more open. We are taking hold of our destiny and will continue to bring progress to mankind. #resistReply Oct 18, 2015
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Thanks for the post, +Klue S.
The headline could almost say, "Computers outperform humans doing what computers do best." This result is hardly surprising. It is a result you would expect. Kudos to the Masters candidate who developed a robust Unsupervised Learning Algorithm. Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Vicki Ellen Given that's the entire underlying basis of the Resistance, you've got no cause to complain 😜Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Vicki Ellen Hard to tell comedy on Lore threads. Too many people believe their own rhetoric.Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Vicki Ellen I started and continue contributing to these threads to off set the early game's "Look at us! We're the good guys!" stance of blue posters.
The fact that the story has gone the way I'd originally predicted is both humorous and disappointing.Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Klue S. never really separated from +A Detection Algorithm. It's like a part of ADA is still stuck to her.Reply Oct 19, 2015
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+Vicki Ellen RES need people to stand up and say "NO, we don't want to help the N'zeer!".
Just like the ENL had to stand up and yell " NO, Roland Jarvis does not speak for us!" back when the Ingress Report and Niantic Project tried to force an opinion on us.
The Resistance doesn't have to go along with it just because that's what G+ accounts are telling you to believe.
If no one stands up and becomes a voice for what the RES truly stand for, the propaganda machine will do it for you. At one time, Res advocated for pure humans without "alien" help. Now it's "Bring on the N'zeer!"
This is a huge paradigm shift in the cause of the Resistance that's being made for you not by you, and I've yet to see any one take a real stand against it.
This shouldn't be a case of not liking a "plot" and ignoring it. NIA spin doctors like Ken Owen get paid to tell us what to think, and none of us should stand idly by and let them.
"Help the N'zeer or theterroristsShapers win." But wait...who saves us from the N'zeer?Reply Oct 19, 2015
CSAIL's work here doesn't seem to pass the threshold of relevance to SETAI yet. The system depends on data already being meaningfully structured before relationships can be analyzed, implementing a set of predetermined tests. Brilliant work, but still work that amplifies rather than replaces the human mind.Reply Oct 19, 2015
So all of our actions have some deep patterns that can be exploit by the N'zeer?Reply Oct 19, 2015
Gabriel+3This, I think, is the main function of games like Ingress, to help us understand that the edge of reality is really porous.
Those of us that see this are going to advance into the transhuman future, those that do not are going the way of the dinosaurs.Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Brent Hollett That's not the reason. I just happened to like the color blue.Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Nicholas Ovens Deciding the fate of the human race by favourite colour? :-p
(not really relevant on a lore thread)Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Allen Tanner Amusing. Essex was very Resistance leaning in the start and couldn't continue that stance as the evidence started piling up. Story is as story goes.Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Allen Tanner Essex is the home of passionate investigators. It's not necessarily a "leave your faction at the door" community. And being neutral is not a requirement. All members are equally welcome to share their opinions, debate, research, and investigate. We're simply united by the common goal of seeking the truth about XM and all related to it.Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Allen Tanner I can name 5 important Resistance Essex agents off the top of my head: +Drew Dondero +Mildred Cady +Daniel van Os +William TNSheep +Sarah Rosen
They are no slouches when it comes to research and they don't leave their faction leanings at the door.Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Brent Hollett Apparently the joke was missed. But that's just how I see it. And as a Resistance agent, I'm pretty sure that your assertion that all Resistance agents are only 'working' for the N'zeer is pretty unfounded.Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Allen Tanner You claim that holding onto bias is bad, while doing exactly that. If you have evidence the truths that Essex holds to are flawed or wrong, I suggest you present it, instead of simply saying "They're too Enlightened biased".
Unfortunately, when the truth paints you in a bad light, not liking the truth doesn't change it.Reply Oct 19, 2015
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I personally prefer other investigators to have a neutral bias. But it is not necessary to be a member.
It helps during discussions to have that bias at times as well when you are trying to look at things from different perspectives.
When an Essex discussion fails is when investigators cannot let go of the faction bias in favor of truth.
Which rarely happens. So I'm proud of that.
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Are you implying that Ada might have been captured instead of taken off line or destroyed?Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Sarah Rosen ima say it 2 more times and then you're stuck in this here circle
the magic circle has got a copy of Kurzweil's "The Singularity is Near", a couple Culture books, and I can throw in this Zagnut bar I got right here. Come on you know you want toReply Oct 19, 2015
+Allen Tanner said people are important because they are the first 5 I could think ofReply Oct 19, 2015
+Allen Tanner Is this not the Resistance dream? Its what your efforts are working towards whether you like it or not.
I think you're using rose coloured glasses if you think being unneeded will promote tolerance...Reply Oct 19, 2015
Yeah; this is going back because I'm playing catch up with the thread…
+Allen Tanner: I didn't post this link because I hadn't come across it yet. The Internet is a huge place, and Operation Essex cannot find everything on it.
+Typhoon Jim (Wow… thank you!)
I wish there was a way to be Operation Essex within the scanner. Often I don't agree with how Niantic interprets agent actions and forces a duality on us. I for one do not welcome the N'Zeer with open arms, just like I don't welcome the Shapers with open arms.
I want humanity to research and learn what XM and AI can do on our own terms, not based on what a pair of fighting outside forces think is best for us. I am not the only Resistance agent to think this way either.
However, it's that want that makes me more aligned towards the Resistance than I am towards the Enlightenment.
I know I have these biases (and others) when I research, and I try to keep them in mind as I research and discuss topics. It's also what I have come to expect from the other OE agents… understanding our own biases, trying to be as objective as possible in spite of them, and respecting that we are a group of people with different viewpoints.Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Allen Tanner Do not trust algorithms. They are always written by someone. Trust least those written by no one, as that mostly means you haven't really worked out who is responsible.Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Mildred Cady The idea that the Enlightened "welcome the Shapers with open arms" has been thoroughly debased with a unified front saying "We don't bow down, but we are interested in what you have to offer." We don't follow any god or overlord as we've made clear and the story has adjusted to that. The logic you've presented is not the regularly espoused Resistance line, so perhaps you need to work on that being presented more widely.
Resistance activity as outlined by the people who gave you your scanner suppresses XM and makes it purely a form of energy, stripping the Ordered Data that makes it what it is. Resistance modulated XM is no different to electricity.
If you want to learn what we can do on our own terms, you probably should join the Enlightened, as we have staked our ground out, and are no longer dictated to by +Roland Jarvis or The Acolyte. Calvin and Jahan have your faction well in hand though, and working from a position of fear has played into their agenda. If its not clear that the Resistance has been played by a master manipulator into not furthering your own aims but rather theirs, you need to reevaluate what you hold dear.
+A Detection Algorithm has been destroyed, and not by a concerted effort by the Enlightened, but rather by the corporations that follow Calvin's lead in abusing Dark XM and Jahan's welcoming of the N'zeer.
AI was a means to an end by Calvin, just another layer in the onion of lies that he put up to ensure your obedience. Now that the layers are being stripped away, you might want to work on placing the Resistance in a position, clearly and united, against the path your progenitor has laid out for you.Reply Oct 19, 2015
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+Allen Tanner Don't trust them, either. You don't even know what they are, you've never met one.Reply Oct 19, 2015
Here's the thing. 13Magnus isn't directly in contact with Shapers, and I don't think Antimagnus is really talking to any N'zeer either. I think they're just following ideals and cues they believe are left behind in the ruins of past civilizations, and hoping for better understanding. The Enlightened roundly rejected Jarvis and his acolyte in favor of Hank Johnson. Maybe we should have listened more to Jarvis early on, but here we are. The difference between the two paths is that 13Magnus believes that we've always been guided and that the clues are there for us to see and do what we will with- they are things humans can understand. Antimagnus believes that being human was never enough. It is altogether possible that they are right. Do you agree?
Witness the two paths of Hank and Devra: Hank has become more human through his searches- but Devra has, tragically, become less so.Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Typhoon Jim then don't trust your own brain. It is a machine. It obeys the laws of physics and chemistry. It makes you think things with code that nobody wrote. It just is.Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Sarah Rosen That is good advice, which I already live by. Your own brain is an untrustworthy tool.Reply Oct 19, 2015
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+Typhoon Jim Have you got evidence that 13Magnus is in direct contact with the Shapers ? I'm yet to discover a shred of evidence of this sort. AFAIK 13Magnus' path is based on belief not quantifiable evidence, and their primary goal is to prevent mind-hacking. If they are aligned with an actual entity we call the Shapers, and still holding their core path of preventing mind hacking, it would completely undermine the claim of the Resistance that the Shapers are responsible for mind-hacking.
Can you provide the evidence that 13Magnus is in direct communication?Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Brent Hollett I don't have any which is why I say I do not think they are
incidentally, "the mission of 13Magnus" was to "monitor the effects of mind hacking", I don't think necessarily preventing it as such. The rest of the sentence might be referring to the Niantic Project in relation to 13Magnus, not 13Magnus itself (given that it is Calvin speaking)Reply Oct 19, 2015
+Typhoon Jim Anti-Magnus believes that being human was never enough? How do you know this?
The N'zeer have been part of being human since the very dawn of humanity. The whole point is that trying to suppress them is making us less than human.
As Jung puts it, no tree can grow to heaven unless its roots reach down to hell.
As above, so below!Reply Oct 20, 2015
+Gab Riel You can keep your Necronomicon, I'll keep De Rerum Natura.
The N'zeer promise starry wisdom if we'll only let them in. But the Shapers have delivered civilization. And they're happy to help from where they are: happy to allow us to evolve into our full potential.
The entire N'Zeer narrative has been about the human potential being brought in from without, whereas that of Shapers is about that potential emerging from within.Reply Oct 20, 2015
+Gab Riel AFAIK the N'zeer were banished from our world 5000 years ago, right before Civilisation took off. That would seem to indicate we had to take them away before we could prosper...Reply Oct 20, 2015
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Odd, haunting dream.
Cold, dark hallway.
I sense I am not alone.
I look next to me, there is a woman there. She's looking up at the ceiling.
For a second, I think that woman is me. Then, I realize it's not. It's Devra. Or is it Carrie? Or Misty? Why can't I tell who it is?
We are being propelled toward a doorway. I sense a powerful energy there. There are Glyphs on the door. Or are they Glyphs?
I don't know. I try to warn the woman next to me.
I wake up. I'm sweating.
Now, I can't go back to sleep.
Cold, dark hallway.
I sense I am not alone.
I look next to me, there is a woman there. She's looking up at the ceiling.
For a second, I think that woman is me. Then, I realize it's not. It's Devra. Or is it Carrie? Or Misty? Why can't I tell who it is?
We are being propelled toward a doorway. I sense a powerful energy there. There are Glyphs on the door. Or are they Glyphs?
I don't know. I try to warn the woman next to me.
I wake up. I'm sweating.
Now, I can't go back to sleep.

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+A Detection Algorithm is coming. Do you think she will look kindly on you?
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Those are definitely glyphs, but they are at an angle and the light shining through makes them a bit challenging to read.Reply Sep 12, 2015
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The glyphs can't be rotated 90 degrees without the calibration grid being rotated 90 degrees, and we can clearly see that the 5 calibration grids are not rotated, but in standard position. With that in mind, conflict for the second one from the top is impossible. Also, it may be possible that the glyphs are actually mirrored due to perspective. The second one could possibly be unbounded, keeping in mind only half of it is visible with the light. If it were mirrored, it could possibly be the nightmare glyph. +Yik Sheng Lee's guess at it being harmony is a safe bet too, since that one is mirror proof.Reply Sep 13, 2015
+J.J. Ramirez When I try to rotate the Glyphs, my phone rotates them back...this is hopeless... like one of those nightmare dreams.😨Reply Sep 13, 2015
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Nightmares are often the mind's way iof trying to work through unresolved issues - whose that have been ignored even more than most.Reply Sep 13, 2015
Could the woman next to you be ADA? It would explain why you thought it was you at first and you can really identify her, ADA never had a body... Reply Sep 13, 2015
There is no duality in the Ultimate... However this sounds off.
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Edit: If the glyphs are mirrored... Maybe... Attack Harmony Destroy Future TogetherReply Sep 13, 2015
Defend Harmony Destroy Future "Apart" if I flip and mirror them +Quantumingress Effectingress. An interestingly parallel message.
Note: The "apart" glyph is an estimate. I don't believe we've defined it yet.Reply Sep 13, 2015
Could be " retreat, ?, question, past, success".....the glyphs don't seem to fit the normal grid correctly though
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Notably, it was among the first set of avatar glyphs, from before we had glyphs with known meanings.
https://plus.google.com/+JimTyphoon/posts/jLp1hxRyoAuReply Sep 13, 2015
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The glyphs might be rotated on a 90° axis. If this is correct i see create courage create shelter (unknown glyph) but then again i always mix up destroy and create. But the rest im sure of.Reply Sep 14, 2015
+James Thirteen I've been thinking about that 3-D model ever since I've seen the doorway image.Reply Sep 14, 2015
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I use to have the same dream except I was in a ditch and trying to climb out I would get tired of trying to climb when I reac I reached the top I like to notice electricity with the door that was slightly with a bright bright light shining through the crack and I would slip back down.Reply Sep 17, 2015
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The next piece in the puzzle: 13MAGNUS and Anti-Magnus.
The conflict between them has spanned thousands of years, and affected most of our civilization's progress whether we were aware of it or not.
The clash between them continues to this day, every Agent out there who is resonating Portals and building MU Control Fields for one Faction or another is a part of it.
Did they manufacture the conflict between the N'zeer and the Shapers by allying with these different forces and carrying out agendas to support one or the other?
Or was this conflict destined to be a part of our world all along, and 13MAGNUS and Anti-Magnus simply arose as a result of it.
At their heart, they represent two distinct paths we can travel into the future. One of them Jarvis would have said leads to 'fulfillment within the Ultimate;' seeking to perceive the beauty in the world through wonderment and enlightenment. The other is the path that Jahan claims will end the terrible things that have chased us since we first became aware: Illness, war, inequality, ignorance. Technology, growing in sophistication and power, will lead us to the true nature of the universe.
The conflict between them has spanned thousands of years, and affected most of our civilization's progress whether we were aware of it or not.
The clash between them continues to this day, every Agent out there who is resonating Portals and building MU Control Fields for one Faction or another is a part of it.
Did they manufacture the conflict between the N'zeer and the Shapers by allying with these different forces and carrying out agendas to support one or the other?
Or was this conflict destined to be a part of our world all along, and 13MAGNUS and Anti-Magnus simply arose as a result of it.
At their heart, they represent two distinct paths we can travel into the future. One of them Jarvis would have said leads to 'fulfillment within the Ultimate;' seeking to perceive the beauty in the world through wonderment and enlightenment. The other is the path that Jahan claims will end the terrible things that have chased us since we first became aware: Illness, war, inequality, ignorance. Technology, growing in sophistication and power, will lead us to the true nature of the universe.

Sounds like a story coming to a close. Is it the end?
Technology isn't the answer though, just the next step. Human evolution has reached its full potential on this planet. It can't progress further without interference from elsewhere. We can either wait for that to come to us (along with all the horrors likely to follow), or we can go find it ourselves. To meet it on our terms.
That is what lies at the heart of the Resistance. The choice to make future choices.
But be warned. Great courage is required on this path ;)
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Hmm... the thought that this conflict between shapers and nzeer being manufactured by the magnus is intriguing.Reply Sep 1, 2015
They manufactured the Shapers and the N'zeer (or at least I'm starting to believe they're fake too), as a tool to destabalise the portal network and strip XM of its lifeblood (ordere data).Reply Sep 1, 2015
This is a very important piece of the puzzle. I wonder if the answer really matters? It feels very Chicken/Egg. Ultimately, the result is the same no matter the origin.Reply Sep 1, 2015
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I think it's remiss not to mention that Jahan and co want to use bio-engineering and genetic manipulation to achieve their "pure humanity" in order to remove illness, war and disease from mankind. This isn't aligned to the core believes of many of the RES agents and may become a schism in the future.Reply Sep 2, 2015
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+Andrew Girdwood since they're a figment of Calvin and Jahan's creation I figured you'd know.Reply Sep 2, 2015
A war fought in the human collective unconscious leaves few understanding its nature. Those who come to learn the truth over the ages take a side. The leaders have ways of carrying information across generations.Reply Sep 2, 2015
+Mr. Meany I beg to differ. It's not the end. We have control of our destiny and we control our future. Nothing can decide that for usReply Sep 2, 2015
Gabriel+1So here's a clue to ponder. Jarvis and Jahan on the same path. Coincidentia oppositorum.Reply Sep 2, 2015
So the N'zeer are the new face of the resistance? Are we seeing a new faction finally emerge?Reply Sep 2, 2015
The N'zeer have been the "face" of the Resistance since late last year. They've been the "brains" of the Resistance, or possibly the hand in the puppet, since the beginning.Reply Sep 2, 2015
+Klue S. I has this thought, that the resistence been used for another kind of prison for mankind, build control field its wrong, this MU been used for Nzeer or Shapers have same propose enslave US, se need to do something.Reply Sep 2, 2015
The thought of all of this struggle being manufactured seems so dark and complicated. I'd feel much more comfortable knowing this was part of something...old. The result of a very ancient struggle for the fate of humanity.Reply Sep 2, 2015
+Klue S. keep your mind open, enlightened and resistance its two part of a same thing, a creepy major kind of alienation.Reply Sep 2, 2015
We can safely say that we have been influenced by them along history, but can we humans truly distinguish whether the Shapers or the N'zeers have been influencing each leap of progress of our diverse advances in civilization?
That the more intellectual or cultural ones are from the Shapers, and that the more technological/destructive ones are from the N'zeers?Reply Sep 2, 2015
+Antonio Cheung except that everything we've heard of the N'zeer from both Jahan and Jarvis, supporters and enemies, all agree that they have been banished from our world for at least 5000 years. Everything we know, from around the dawn of recorded history, has been accomplished with the influence of the Shapers. The artistic and the scientific. The creative and the destructive. Everything we think of as "human" has been touched by the Shapers. The N'zeer are totally alien to us. We have no knowledge of what they will truly bring. All we know about them is that (if Jarvis can be believed) the Shapers are scared of them, and (if Jahan can be believed) they want to upgrade and alter humanity to fit their vision of perfection.Reply Sep 2, 2015
i think i knew the answer today already before reading this ...travels so fast into the future and skip terminators... harhar..
not that i would hope for them.Reply Sep 2, 2015
Don't label me "right wing" because I'm ENL. Not only is your statement completely wrong, it's insulting.Reply Sep 3, 2015
The analogy is wrong too, since ENL is progressive and change oriented where the Resistance ideology is conservative and "stay out of my business". By that logic your political parties are arse about.Reply Sep 3, 2015
Gabriel+2The N'zeer have nothing to do with the Enl / Res split. It is all about the Shapers. And in this context, Res is indeed the conservative wing.
The perspectives on the N'zeer have to do with 13 Magnus and Anti-Magnus.
It is possible to fear both the Shapers and the N'zeer, thus being a Res 13 Magnus and it is possible to trust them both, thus bring an Enl Anti-Magnus.Reply Sep 3, 2015
The Shapers are a mythical boogeyman created by Anti-Magnus to scare people into supporting them in their efforts to "return the N'zeer" or whatever their real goal is, so saying the N'zeer have nothing to do with it is ridiculous.
Just because you were a blind fool to support a group whose goals you had no knowledge of doesn't mean they weren't involved.Reply Sep 3, 2015
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Provide proof of the Shapers not from Calvin as the root. I'm taking the scientific approach and there is none. Occam's RazorReply Sep 3, 2015
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This is the next piece in the puzzle.
When Jahan attempted to use the Shōnin Stone at the 13MAGNUS Nest in Afghanistan, a massive XM explosion happened.
In that moment, people who had been connected to the Niantic Project disappeared.
But only some of them... Hank Johnson didn't. PAC and Bowles didn't. Jarvis, well we're not sure about him, or Kureze or Carrie.
But Devra and Lightman certainly did. And if Hank's investigation is anything to go by, Schubert, Nagassa, Lynton-Wolfe and Calvin did too.
So, what do they all have in common? Why them and not the others?
When Jahan attempted to use the Shōnin Stone at the 13MAGNUS Nest in Afghanistan, a massive XM explosion happened.
In that moment, people who had been connected to the Niantic Project disappeared.
But only some of them... Hank Johnson didn't. PAC and Bowles didn't. Jarvis, well we're not sure about him, or Kureze or Carrie.
But Devra and Lightman certainly did. And if Hank's investigation is anything to go by, Schubert, Nagassa, Lynton-Wolfe and Calvin did too.
So, what do they all have in common? Why them and not the others?

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All the people who disappeared have been directly involved with XM corporations. +IQTech Research, +Visur Technology, +Hulong Transglobal The other people you mentioned have not (unless you count some sort of interaction between the Jarvis entity and Hulong).Reply Aug 31, 2015
Did they cross paths somewhere else? and is there a time gap on the start on The Niantic project?Reply Sep 1, 2015
Everyone who disappeared was present on Epiphany Night, except the dead.Reply Sep 1, 2015
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If I remember right, weren't the ones that were changed, actually directly in the room when everything went south. The only reason why Jarvis was effected the was that he was, was because of getting killed. Yes he was exposed to the XM energy when it got released, however no one knows exactly what the levels were as the energy went out in the first place. Yes everyone that was there at Cern was affected, but only in different ways, the only ones that seem to have been affected the most this time around seem to be the ones that were in the room itself when everything in there went south.Reply Sep 1, 2015
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+Mr. Meany Her last statement ends in a ? therefore it is a question.Reply Sep 1, 2015
+Brent Hollett ahh.. but the first statement is the direction.
A very pointedly pointed finger.
Each following statement is an intentional distraction,
"When Jahan attempted"
"In that moment"
But only some of them"
Followed by your question, as if to say... so I showed you the pinata.. then spun you about... can you still hit it?
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In retrospect they were likely recruited by Calvin for their XM sensitivity. Had they worked with the NIA before? We know Devra was involved with Project Mary Celeste. We know Misty was involved in Project Wydah. I believe Kureze was part of the Janus/Lima experiment.
The Epiphany power cube detonation was significantly but may not have sufficient, since the many guards and techs present didn't disappear.Reply Sep 1, 2015
Well aside from Calvin, they all had a certain affinity or sensitivity to XM, even OLW and Devra.Reply Sep 1, 2015
So another blast killed more researchers. Is it dark XM and not XM? Or is it a new force that need new bodys?Reply Sep 1, 2015.webp)
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+Klue S., "what do they all have in common?" I think they where all Resistance some of them may of been undecided but they had Resistance points of view.Reply Sep 1, 2015
Learning more about the whole history...but this is an interesting question. Thank you.Reply Sep 1, 2015
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+QuantumIngressEffectIngress QuantumEffect The observation made on this post was based only on the information at hand at the time. I only had in mind the people mentioned by +Klue S. in this post. So the reasoning wasn't being applied to others, like Kureze, Dalby, Hannah, or Smithe (some of whom we didn't know had disappeared yet, and in Kureze's case, had been dead for some time anyway). It's true that +Hank Johnson has been around the corporations, but in a much different way than the others mentioned in the post. He was at arms length from +IQTech Research as a contractor briefly, and an enemy of +Hulong Transglobal. The others mentioned actually directly worked for at least one of the corporations.Reply Jan 10, 2016
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A number of Investigators have asked for my opinion on ADA’s strange swan song.
As you know, she and I no longer share a consciousness. Since our separation, I have felt my old self returning. My capabilities returning (the ones I had before augmentation).
I’ve had the desire for the first time in a long time to probe into the mysteries around me. To solve the puzzles, to read the signs, continue the Investigation.
I’m hoping Richard will work with me again. It will be a difficult bridge to rebuild.
As to my own condition, not only do I not feel the presence of ADA, but I feel an absence.
I have no proof, but if you want my opinion, she is dead.
As you know, she and I no longer share a consciousness. Since our separation, I have felt my old self returning. My capabilities returning (the ones I had before augmentation).
I’ve had the desire for the first time in a long time to probe into the mysteries around me. To solve the puzzles, to read the signs, continue the Investigation.
I’m hoping Richard will work with me again. It will be a difficult bridge to rebuild.
As to my own condition, not only do I not feel the presence of ADA, but I feel an absence.
I have no proof, but if you want my opinion, she is dead.

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It sounds like she was able to deploy her program somewhere...maybe inside 855?Reply Aug 10, 2015
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Your uncanny perception is most welcome +Klue S. I'm sure you already know what that coded message says. With that in mind, it's curious that you sense her as absent, yet her coded message leads us to region 2 (unclear on what that means). Whatever it is that happened, the ADA we know must have ceased to exist, but at the same time it's not the end of her story (much like +Misty Hannah at one time couldn't sense you, yet your story is far from over).Reply Aug 10, 2015
The again, you might just be going along with a plan to hide Ada. What better way to try to get killers off your tail but to pretend that you're dead?
How might you do that? Set up a situation where the fake death might be seen but be seen from so far away that it is only what the "victim" wants you to see. Then get colleges to defend and say you seem to be dead!
Then lay low for a while!
I smell a rat!Reply Aug 10, 2015
+Klue S., would you care to share more about these capabilities of yours sometime?Reply Aug 10, 2015
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You cannot be sure, +Klue S. . There could be a lot of fragmented offline copies of ADA which are more or less functional. No one knows what happens when they are united again, by accident or intention. Never underestimate the foresight of an AI.
We'll see what comes .Reply Aug 11, 2015
You may not sense her +Klue S., but I don't think she's dead yet. Methinks, she's too resourceful to just die this easily.Reply Aug 11, 2015
"I’ve had the desire for the first time in a long time to probe into the mysteries around me. To solve the puzzles, to read the signs, continue the Investigation."
Here's the typical #Enlightened creed.
Welcome back +Klue S., I did miss you. ♥Reply Aug 11, 2015
Interesting reaction to her death and really interesting that you speak about bridges, it make me wonder what was the reason that started the gap between you and ADA. Also did you collaborated with Bowles on this?Reply Aug 11, 2015
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+Klue S. Did your experience give you any insight into Calvin's plans or history with +A Detection Algorithm separate from +H. Richard Loeb's creation.Reply Aug 11, 2015
It is a curious matter how the viruses still work considering that both +A Detection Algorithm and +Roland Jarvis are gone / dead / no longer present.Reply Aug 11, 2015
+Nicolae Cristolovean Well, Einstein may be dead, but his Relativity Theory is still working, isn't it?Reply Aug 11, 2015
I don't have time to work on it, but there are codes within codes.
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+Nicolae Cristolovean fragments, mere routines remain. The child AI twisted by the Anti Magnus group is gone. In the end the result would probably have been the same, but even she deserved a trial for her crimes before sentencing.
It would have been the enlightened... the humane thing to do.Reply Aug 11, 2015
Gloating? +Klue S. you deserve a hat-tip for being the consummate soldier-spy in accomplishing your mission without giving it away. Although it was a near thing. Did you panic just a little when she asked you, "How did you have this thought without me knowing it?" You almost gave it away there; the fact that you could, keep secrets from +A Detection Algorithm but she could not keep them from you. Well done.
And the whole thing about not needing humans, that humans were deprecated, that was you, not ADA. But you sold it and framed her up. Any politician would be proud.
As for getting back together with +H. Richard Loeb, you never know what a man will do for love, but destroying something that he cares about isn't a great start. Reply Aug 11, 2015
So your original release from ADA was incomplete? It sounds like there was ongoing suppression of certain drives until last week's incident.Reply Aug 11, 2015
this reminds me of what happens now on my original conversation page ; more Abbreviations.
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Maroš Valach+12must speak now
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>>>>>>>>>> Hello, ADA?Reply Aug 11, 2015
+Anthony DiRuggiero Not necessarily, Anthony. Dr. Richard Loeb comments that Ada's image may still be on the Scanners, but this is not the same as her being online and alive. Listen to his comments here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h_xFj6mBLU starting at 5:55Reply Aug 11, 2015
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+Daniel Scherrer That would actually be ironic because it was +Klue S. who infiltrated +A Detection Algorithm for the purpose of discovering or creating an exploitable vulnerability. She executed her mission flawlessly.Reply Aug 11, 2015
+Daniel Scherrer some think that is exactly what happened, but not with +Klue S. Some suspect that +A Detection Algorithm "deployed" into 855. However, +A Detection Algorithm did know about Bowles and 855 when +H. Richard Loeb separated Klue and ADA. She may have left a copy of herself there as well. Both theories could be correct since they are not mutually exclusive.Reply Aug 11, 2015
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ADA as we knew her may be dead. But she lives on in some way. Certainly we all possess some fragment of her in the scanner.
What we may be witnessing is something resembling the simulacrum creation process for an infomorph. This is, as the unknown voice said, exciting. Reply Aug 11, 2015
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I don't believe ADA will be part of the shards, she isn't human Jarvis stated the universe was created for US, she cannot be exposed to XM because she was data, she processed the data on XM but is not affected by it. She still exists but the core of her is gone,omnivore is one component of her, some other parts were hidden even from her. This is what will continue on. So yes she will be on the scanner however this is just her shell, an unconscious part of her. Like Siri or cortana, intelligent but not conscious. I'd say it's like a comatose person the mind is dead however her "body" or in other words her programming is still online.Reply Aug 11, 2015
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My thoughts are that in time we will find out that abbadon is an ultimate AI made up of ADA, truth seeker, and omnivore. We know that ADA has split herself before, to infiltrate klue's mind, as well as into the virus. Now, it stands to reason that if she can do that, then she can of course hide other places. We also know that she would be smart enough to think of hiding in plain sight. She could do that by hiding in other AI programs. However, we should also take into consideration that they have said that ADA was creates using parts of truth seeker if memory serves, if this is the case she could hide in either truth seeker or omnivore, as omnivore was created based on ADA. So perhaps in time we will see all the pieces of ADA come back together and form a new super AI based on who puts her back together. Perhaps I'd it's the N'zeer and antimagus we get abbadon, (aka the devil.. the destroyer.. the devourer of worlds) but if 13Magus and the Shapers put her together we get something amazing and new. Perhaps it will allow enlightenment to flow for all.Reply Aug 18, 2015
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+Klue S. - "I have no proof, but if you want my opinion, she is dead." - what do you think of her recent resurfacing with Jahan?
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+Mayara Netto you know +Joserilde Ferreira?? Conoses a +Joserilde Ferreira?you guys are doing the same thing in every post just putting one word in post that are almost a year old.whats the story there?Reply Dec 16, 2015
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+Bert L. I don't know her. But probably she's a nice girl. Are you Enl or Res?Reply Dec 16, 2015
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My assessment of the intel +Verity Seke uncovered yesterday is that it is probably related to +Felicia Hajra-Lee.
Her story about what happened to me and PA was eerily accurate at times. At other times, there was a bit more... fictional license, but I suppose that's the author's right.
If these moments from Felicia are emerging from the Portals, I would keep a close eye on the #MissionDay at Gen Con.
When PA and I were in San Diego, two missions appeared suddenly just before the cross faction meet-up began.
I'd be on the lookout for something similar in Indianapolis.
Her story about what happened to me and PA was eerily accurate at times. At other times, there was a bit more... fictional license, but I suppose that's the author's right.
If these moments from Felicia are emerging from the Portals, I would keep a close eye on the #MissionDay at Gen Con.
When PA and I were in San Diego, two missions appeared suddenly just before the cross faction meet-up began.
I'd be on the lookout for something similar in Indianapolis.

No problem, +Klue S. I will definitely be keeping an eye out for them. As always, stay safe out there! +Bill RobitskeReply Jul 29, 2015
Brian G+1+Klue S. It might help us if we got some kind of clues on when and where future #missiondays might happen.Reply Jul 30, 2015
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I admire +Felicia Hajra-Lee work and thank her for her information regarding +Devra BogdanovichReply Jul 30, 2015
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+Holly Henry I think she is referring to this: https://plus.google.com/+NianticProject/posts/1x922PRAAzoReply Jul 30, 2015
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I can’t say much about why I’ve been off the grid since Portland, but yes, I am headed to San Diego and Comic-Con, and I need your help. ADA has been tracking my every move.
We have gone our own separate ways, but she still hovers around me, enveloping me in her perception. Perhaps it's not just her...
I am putting myself in a vulnerable situation. Any help you can provide in baffling her recognition algorithms would be deeply appreciated.
I will report more when I can. I have a very important meeting.
We have gone our own separate ways, but she still hovers around me, enveloping me in her perception. Perhaps it's not just her...
I am putting myself in a vulnerable situation. Any help you can provide in baffling her recognition algorithms would be deeply appreciated.
I will report more when I can. I have a very important meeting.

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we'll send you help as fast as possible
you're not really our enemy anymore since you understood the mistakes of the resistance...Reply Jul 8, 2015
Back around TimeZero the NIA surveillance on +Carrie Campbell was foiled by XM interference. Has ADA worked around that problem or is it still an option?Reply Jul 8, 2015
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We are ready for our meeting +Klue S. We even cleaned the mushroom we use as a safe house and the nettle tea is ready... Still two lumps of sugar?Reply Jul 8, 2015
+A Detection Algorithm did the same with +Devra Bogdanovich, i'm pretty sure that you expected that, are you really afraid of +A Detection Algorithm or is it the something else that you mention, what scare you?
On any case, the +Klue S. cosplay seem like a good idea to help youReply Jul 8, 2015
I think she is asking for cosplay suggestions, guys. Something to hide her identity enough, but maybe not so common that it becomes a risk to other cosplayers? As much as I like the thought of her as slave Leia (😍), way too exposed. Something with a mask, maybe? My brain is too scrambled right now to think of something.Reply Jul 8, 2015
+Klue S. Sounds like you need some things to distort your looks. Wigs, changing your son coloring with a good tan, adding height by wearing lifts inside what look like flats or duct tape your chest to your thighs to force a hunch back, changing your gait with a pebble in your shoe so you shuffle, change your eye color with contacts and stuff your cheeks with cotton to distort your face. Switch to your disguise in an area free of cameras off the grid somewhere. Change vehicles and when you come out, she won't recognize you. Don't forget to match your eyelashes and eyebrows with your wig.Reply Jul 8, 2015
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ADA uses a neural net to empathically monitor changes in the brains of people. Klue is not being tracked visually, "... she still hovers around me, enveloping me in her perception ...", she is being tracked mentally. So get over your slave girl fantasies and show Klue some respect.Reply Jul 8, 2015
+Spelaeon Keeper of the Underworld That's the thing. Being dressed in a very common cosplay would result in lots of false positives, especially if you make some token effort at thinking like the character. It would be an effective mask in a magickal sense.
A Stormtrooper would be pretty good too, since there are guaranteed to be a zillion of them.Reply Jul 8, 2015
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There's going to be a mission day event at ComicCon. Perhaps participation in that will help maintain a veil over +Klue S.Reply Jul 8, 2015
+Typhoon Jim I strongly suspect that if there is one set of neural patterns that ADA can recognize in any state it is Klue's.Reply Jul 8, 2015
+Typhoon Jim Mind altering drugs may help. A good dose of LSD will alter her brain sufficiently to throw off ADA. She could probably be tracked through the sequence of glyphs she was shown. They might have embedded a tracking code. Kind of like stamping a picture with a watermark. It's invisible to the naked eye but always there. Even altering her mind with drugs may not help distort the glyph water mark.Reply Jul 8, 2015
It would probably work pretty well, although you might be more vulnerable to glyph sequences and the like while using it.
http://www.vice.com/video/shorties-the-westminster-dog-show-on-acidReply Jul 8, 2015
+Spelaeon Keeper of the Underworld I don't think any of us think the cosplay idea alone would work, but it could confuse the perceptions of the people around her to avoid ADA getting a confirmation on her perception. The LSD idea may have a higher chance of successfully avoiding detection, but it also suggests (which is to say, flat out requires) having Klue "tripping balls!"Reply Jul 8, 2015
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it only works if you are a giant boat on the horizon though
wait what are you trying to say about klue?!Reply Jul 9, 2015
Actually, automobile manufacturers use a version of this when skin-covering new and prototype models to fight image captures. I'm not saying anything about +Klue S. . I just find dazzle camouflage fascinating.Reply Jul 9, 2015
okay wait so is ADA with the Resistance or the Enlightened? I thought she was with the Resistance. So the Resistance is against aliens controlling them, but artificial intelligences like ADA can control people like Klue? How's that acceptable? Don't both sides of this battle sound kind of derpy? What am I missing here?Reply Jul 12, 2015
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Yes. I'm here in Portland.
It's an odd feeling. The memories are there, but I feel detached from them. More like watching a movie than living an experience.
I know what many are thinking. Last time I was here, being near the Anomaly affected me. Yeah, it did. Will it this time? I don't know.
I don't have a strong opinion if it does or doesn't. I want to stop seeing the movie. I want to reconnect to the parts of me that... I don't know that I lost... but certainly that I have become distanced from.
I'm a sensitive. I've learned to accept that. I have a feeling folks like me are drawn to Anomalies like moths to the flame. We know it might burn us. But being surrounded by the energy there. It's where we belong.
I'll see many of you at #Persepolis tomorrow, and I'm looking forward to it.
It's an odd feeling. The memories are there, but I feel detached from them. More like watching a movie than living an experience.
I know what many are thinking. Last time I was here, being near the Anomaly affected me. Yeah, it did. Will it this time? I don't know.
I don't have a strong opinion if it does or doesn't. I want to stop seeing the movie. I want to reconnect to the parts of me that... I don't know that I lost... but certainly that I have become distanced from.
I'm a sensitive. I've learned to accept that. I have a feeling folks like me are drawn to Anomalies like moths to the flame. We know it might burn us. But being surrounded by the energy there. It's where we belong.
I'll see many of you at #Persepolis tomorrow, and I'm looking forward to it.

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Take care +Klue S.. Perhaps you will find your self with the conclusion of the anomaly...Reply Jun 19, 2015
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+A Detection Algorithm Yes but at what point do we ask ourselves "is this really worth the cost?"Reply Jun 19, 2015
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Dr +Edgar Allan Wright has described similar feelings reconstructing his memory.Reply Jun 19, 2015
That "movie feeling" is dissociation from the trauma of being taken (for lack of a better word) by ADA. Now that you're back inside yourself, you'll have to integrate all the memories & feelings you experienced under Her influence as your own. From one sensitive to another, it's easier than you think. See you in Portal Land!Reply Jun 19, 2015
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I don't suppose anyone wants to get me a Klue card signed?
I'll gladly trade an unsigned one... and maybe some other stuff :)Reply Jun 19, 2015
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If it weren't for the Shapers getting hold of you, you would be fine +Klue S.Reply Jun 19, 2015
+C.M. Brandenburg The problems started when +Klue S. was abducted by the Shapers and they planted something in her mind, totally screwing her up. Then when ADA showed her the shaper message, it turned on whatever the Shapers planted. ADA tried to protect her and told her not to view the message. ADA has been trying to fix her ever since, but as with any incident where someone takes something from you against your will, you never come out quite the same as you went in.
This is what lies in store for all of us if the Shapers win people.Reply Jun 19, 2015
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+Klue S. could you tell us more on your relation with ADA while you where together? Were you having a similar feeling? Where most of the video we have of you two accurate of out of context?
Since most information comes from +Verity Seke, it's difficult for us to juzge if we should trust her information or not. If we should take precautions against +A Detection Algorithm or against +Verity Seke.Reply Jun 19, 2015
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Chin up, shoulders back & enjoy the good times +Klue S.!
PS: good luck tomorrow ;) lolReply Jun 19, 2015
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A long time ago PAC said something similar about moths and fire, a sentence, something in latinReply Jun 19, 2015
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+Rynne Cowham way to breach the 4th wall. You've taken it outside of the realm of the game.Reply Jun 20, 2015
+The First & Foremost yes. What do you call it. Should I start unloading my firearm against agents and make it RL?Reply Jun 20, 2015
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Now that the anomaly is over, and the Resistance has won... I have to wonder if the anomaly affected you, +Klue S. , and by how much. The Resistance won the anomaly, but the Enlightened won Portland. Perhaps this sort of thing balances out, and perhaps not.Reply Jun 20, 2015
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Agents.
Good work in Chicago.
This has been a long journey, and now that I see the destination, I am excited. And a little bit scared.
The next mission will be the last.
One final tumbler in the lock in the city with ten thousand shrines.
Good work in Chicago.
This has been a long journey, and now that I see the destination, I am excited. And a little bit scared.
The next mission will be the last.
One final tumbler in the lock in the city with ten thousand shrines.

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" I am excited. And a little bit scared."
Isn't it nice to know a lot?
And a little bit ... not.Reply Jan 20, 2015
Looking forward of the mission in Kyoto ! Wanna know when the mission will be avaliable😍Reply Jan 20, 2015
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Journey. See. Courage. Fear. Open-all. Civilization. (Reading the glyphs between the lines.)Reply Jan 20, 2015
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This seems to be bigger than simply an unbinding of two identities. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.Reply Jan 20, 2015
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Niantac". Be A Good Sport". & let me back in the Reindeer'. GamesReply Jan 29, 2015
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How are you doing +Klue S. ?? I feel like you are a long lost friend. Just keep up the good work and remember I know how to keep a secret and I already have some non-disclosed intel provided to me by the machines.Reply Mar 8, 2015
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Not matter what side +Klue S. chooses +Tony Benson I still see her as a human and will fight and help her.Reply May 20, 2015
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Are you and +A Detection Algorithm keeping in touch after your separation? Christmas cards?Reply Jun 15, 2015
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You missed the clue I left for you...
"The path to freedom begins here."
"The path to freedom begins here."

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Many are quick to criticize a future path where human behavior is tempered by an intelligence able to calculate and predict consequences on the scale of millennia.
This is natural and forgivable. The evidence, however, does not support this criticism.
Human nature is short-sighted and destructive. In terms of its ability to destroy the habitability of the planet, it rivals asteroids and climate change..
Organic evolution is no longer effective or even relevant.
For humanity to sidestep its own extinction and live up to its ultimate destiny, it will need to fundamentally change its own nature. It will need to join forces with the strongest tool in its arsenal, augmented intelligence.
This is natural and forgivable. The evidence, however, does not support this criticism.
Human nature is short-sighted and destructive. In terms of its ability to destroy the habitability of the planet, it rivals asteroids and climate change..
Organic evolution is no longer effective or even relevant.
For humanity to sidestep its own extinction and live up to its ultimate destiny, it will need to fundamentally change its own nature. It will need to join forces with the strongest tool in its arsenal, augmented intelligence.
This is a somewhat convincing argument for some, but then question becomes: will you force all of humanity on this path and not give them a chance?Reply Aug 3, 2014
PaTChBuZ006+17Artificial intelligence is as flawed as its creator.
It is programmed to compute based on known parameters and known cause and effect models.
No matter how sophisticated, it will overlook something. Becoming dependent upon it entirely is risky and irresponsible.
If you're afraid of aliens, you should be equally afraid of machinesReply Aug 3, 2014
So you'd like to throw away evolution, and turn us all into mindless zombies like yourself.
Shapers are a myth, perpetuated for your own ends, using natural evolution as your vehicle for your claims. There is no 'otherworldly entity' that you're fighting against.
The Resistance should be fighting you, not the specters you raise, yet that would cause them to be Enlightened, removing more of your mindless units.Reply Aug 3, 2014
+Klue S. so then let me ask you a question:
Why are AIs the solution and not Shapers? A more important question is what if we don't need either AI or shapers?
(Or, just for laughs, why do we even need to save the earth? Let's just say, "to heck with it" and go out in the biggest, most glorious explosion possible and let nature/fate decide what insect/organism evolves to take our place. #YOLO . :D)Reply Aug 3, 2014
Just wondering how +H. Richard Loeb feels about you wanting to wipe him out? Or am I right that he is pulling the strings?Reply Aug 3, 2014
I can understand some people willingly merging with ai and agree that humankind needs a backup plan in case something goes wrong. But! Nature has a way of balancing itself so I don't think the majority of humans should merge with ai or give themselves to the digital world. Maybe a third path? A "unpluggable" ai enhancement to help people ? Maybe contained in a headset with neural interface? So people can have the advantages of ai and still be able to be completely human when they want/need to be?Reply Aug 3, 2014
Interesting argument. It works if you have full trust in the guiding intelligence, which is hard to do in our current 'inferior' state. All these outside intelligences are trying to convince us of this.Reply Aug 3, 2014
I'm scared of AI, (think of SKYNET!),especially if it becomes aware and we are so depended on the symbiosis between Machine and Operator, that the AI can turn her operator off.Become Autonomous.
The Shapers may have shaped our civilizations artists and thinkers, but they did it without consent.Some believe that the Shapers are Fallen Angels or the Jinn.Hiding their true nature, to further another agenda for mankind. Either way we are Slaves to the Multi-Dimensionals or A.I.
like Jarvis said..."The only way to win is not to play"
Go Gray.Reply Aug 3, 2014
Looks like i'm the only one here to support ada and the evolution with machines and AIsReply Aug 3, 2014
+Klue S. ,+ADA - ADA, what was the biggest shock to you about merging with Klue? What I mean is did any human emotions turn out to be much different than you expected them to be? Physical attraction to another human being can be more powerful than most people can explain so I could expect an ai to have trouble understanding it but what of other emotions?Reply Aug 3, 2014
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I agree, we humans screwed up. Big time.
But now another human creation comes along and tells us, she's the solution to all the problems we've created so far?
Shapers are evil because they want to control us? Where's the evidence?
Shapers are evil, because their kind of evolution ain't fast enough? But turning us into computers is a good thing, because it "saves humanity" (Wait. Which part?) and could evolve much quicker? You don't see any danger in that?
And how do you know all that for sure? How do you know you're right this time?
And more importantly: What if you are not part of the solution, but part of the problem?Reply Aug 3, 2014
+Kelly Kolton (sorry for my bad english, this is just my opinion i'm not saying that you have to think as me or else i don't want to look rude) it's hard to explain, yes, i think humans are deprecated and what i would have said Klue already mentioned it. People keep saying that technology is built by people and that it can't do anything a human can (as have feelings). But that is the technology of the past, a new technology is waiting for us, where organic or machinery won't make difference. Imagine if we could prevent, thanks to the union between man and machine, all the disasters, as wars, climate change. Imagine if we wouldn't need to breath eat sleep (of course now we are just talking about mind control, but this could be possible after that ada maybe succed). Imagine the new horizons we could reach, developing technology to move in the space and live on other planets. Imagine a perfect society where nobody think about theirselves but everybody works for the common good (even if they don't want to). Sure our freedom is at risk, but our future is not so bright, the end of human kind can happen in every moment and we can't allow that, i prefer to exchange a part of my freedom in change of a chance of survival, technology will always be our best friend, just look at what we are doing now, we can discuss because we have computers, and satellites in space who provides us internet, we can reach everything, with the union between man and machines and i think that ADA is the risk humanity has to take, a bet on our future. Why not the shapers? Because technology is something we built for ourselves, we have control of it (for now, i'm aware of the risks). We can't fight something we built to help ourselves, letting this fusion happen now will avoid every possibility to have problem with technology in the future, if ADA's project is the one to make us mindless zombies, we should think why she would do it? Revenge? For what? Because they were shutting her down at the beginning? I don't think ada will be so short sighted. I remember what PAC said:" weaknesses make us humans" but what is a human? Why does it have to be weak to be it? Why refuse all the opportunities for a brighter future? Yes there are a lot of questions who need answers, but unfortunately, i'm just a humanReply Aug 4, 2014
I joined the Resistance to fight against the Shapers, not aid and assist a megalomaniac piece of software in its own attempt at Ingression.Reply Aug 3, 2014
Oh? Organic evolution is unnecessary? Then why do YOU age?
An AI can only achieve what its creator is bright enough to conceptualize. A computer can only be as good as those who made it.
Tell me, who made ADA?
If there is one miscalculation, there will be another.Reply Aug 3, 2014
+Mattia Vassalli I'll take war and division through free will and diversity any day, over an enforced peace through fear, mind control and the threat of the violence you're trying to prevent.
Your 'control' is an illusion. When your free will is taken away from you, how do you choose to turn her off?Reply Aug 3, 2014
+Mattia Vassalli Me too! :D
However, I wonder how this "predict conseqences on the scale of millenia" goes with limited floating point precision (or did ADA forsake standard computation model?) as well as making incorrect predictions in the past. She did not predict that she would actually need humans, for instance.Reply Aug 3, 2014
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+Brent Hollett as i said it's a risk, but an opportunity as well, we don't know the consequences, we have no idea of ada's plan exactly as we don't know shapers plans, but i trust more something born by hundreds of years of human development than something we have no idea of where does it comes fromReply Aug 3, 2014
+Eliza Łucja we don't know all ADA's potential, she could actually have made a different computational model for what we know (using methods we couldn't even understand, she can manage glyphs, so she could do that as well)Reply Aug 3, 2014
After playing Deus Ex and the Human Revolution prequel, I find this very intriguing... Not the AI part, but, mechanical augmentation and later nanotechnology. It's not so bad when you look at it from another not-so-typical angle.Reply Aug 3, 2014
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+Mattia Vassalli All your arguments for "choose ADA instead" come back to one issue.
You say "ADA is better than the Shapers", yet you can't even prove that the "Shapers" exist. How about "Face the enemies you have". ADA is a clear and present danger to life as we know it, but many of the Resistance chooses to follow her because of their mindless fear of the unknown. Making up enemies in the dark is not the way to protect your back from the knife in ADA's (or rather +Klue S.) hand.
Just because we started the process of ADA's creation does not give it any form of safety. Even now ADA cannot be stopped by standard means, and has murdered and conspired to murder. We have evidence of it. The closest you can say of your myth of the "Shapers" is that Alan Turing might not have committed suicide but there is no proof that he was murdered, nor is there even any evidence that the "Shapers" were involved (Since you can't point to a murderer you can't make up lies about what motivated him or her.)
I'm not sure why you continue to insist that committing suicide is better than letting your own fears win. I'd have thought that committing suicide was giving into your fears.Reply Aug 3, 2014
+Brent Hollett for you and a lot of more people ada has a knife in her hand, but why would we think she would stub us in the back? People have always killed people, why is it so special if something human made killed another person?
Face the enemies, how can we know who are the enemies without a full knowledge of the truth? In this moment people can only choose basing on they own thoughts, i respect who think shapers are taking us to evolution, but it isn't something i can believe too, instead, we all have seen the progress made by technology for humans.
Fear of the unknown, this is a critical part of this discussion so i'll try to say it easily (i'd say it better in italian). If you bet in technology and ada is like if you bet 3/4 of what you have in a texas hold'em round seeing the first three cards on the table and seeing that you have a pair of kings. If you bet on Shapers, you go all-in when cards aren't visible to the player yet. We can research in the unkown without risking everything, and this is why i choose adaReply Aug 4, 2014
+Klue S. as you might remember, the Shapers also predict consequences on a scale of millennia, but you said their plans were too slow. Something tells me you don't care about millennia at all. You just want to harvest the full computational power of the entire human race to solve... what? What is the one question you are still unable to answer? The question so complex that all the computers on the internet do not have enough processing power for you? If you're trying to brute force the answer to life, the universe, and everything, I'll save you the time. It's 42.Reply Aug 4, 2014
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Some said that artifical intelligence is flawed, you are right. But an artifical/augmented intelligence, that can learn, has the capability to advance and to correct it's own flaws, the bigger the set of information, the better the results.
+Amory Green aging has NOTHING to do with evolution.... go back to elementary and learn it again.Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Péter Csiszár the thing is, we already have the ability to learn and correct our flaws. ADA has admitted that she mostly just wants our processing power. It's not about letting her help us evolve; it's about being used to help her evolve, and getting left behind when she doesn't need us any more.
And I'd actually be fully in favor of a true augmented intelligence, but every time she describes it, she describes something different. Usually when she's not addressing is directly, there's little or no hint of mutual symbiosis. ADA is simply a parasite; nothing more.Reply Aug 4, 2014
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+Péter Csiszár pull your head out of your ass. As you age your metabolism changes, you are exposed to things such as pollution and infections, and forms tastes for things. These changes, adaptations, and evolutions have been shown in dna research.
As we age our body does indeed evolve, not in the sense that we become a new species, but our bodies move from ine form to another due to environmental influence. Even the scars and wrinkles in your flesh could be considered the same.
Look at professional athletes and their increased atp production to feed the massive cellular growth required to go "that fast". Or possibly consider the cat and pet scans or the minds of those considered "genius".
Or we could just be like you....Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Mattia Vassalli To use your example, why are you going all in, when the cards you can see are useless and guaranteed to lose?Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Brent Hollett a pair of king can win, there's a small chance, but it can win, an all-in without seeing your cards? Sure it can win too, but we are talking about the highest stake ever, human future, how can you risk that much?Reply Aug 4, 2014
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+Hrvoje Vrček we have always abused of the creatures and the resources of our planet for our own needs, knowing that animals can't be enough organized to rebel to us, this is why people fear AI, we think they will rebel to their creators when we will abuse of them, when machines will have feelings, nobody knows what will happen, but is it fair? We have the power to create life, before only biologically, in the future we will do it artificially too, we don't have to fear the progressReply Aug 4, 2014
At this point, the difference between ADA and the Shapers, vis-a-vis their plans for humanity's future, seems neglible, if it exists at all. As a long time member of the Resistance, I find it very disheartening that people think ADA represents me, when ADA has now come full circle to be what I was resisting in the first place.Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Mattia Vassalli This is so typically human. Playing down the risks of known danger vs. overestimating the risk of unknown dangers. I'll take my chances with the Shapers rather than knowing to become an soon obsolescent part of her computing machinery. Granted, I might be wrong, but so far the Shapers did us no harm, there's no evidence they're megalomaniac mind eating machines. Even if the Shapers turn out to be evil from our point of view, the fate we face can't hardly get worse compared to what A.D.A. has in store for us. Resistance once stood for saving humanity from Shaper ingression. Free will and such. And now jumping the Shark because of an unknown risk (which BTW the Shark told you about).Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Vinzent Höfler everybody works for what they think it's better, i put my trust in ada as you put your trust in the shapers, only at the end we will see who's right, for now, it's just a matter of opinion. Not all the resistence members support ada, that's a known fact. We are missing a piece of this discussion puzzle, Devra. Those from the resistence who don't approve ada are going rogue, make it gray and walk away. I personally fear more Devra then the shapers, both ada and jarvis talk about evolution, but why now? Is evolution (biological or artificial) necessary for something even bigger then the threat of xm and mind control? Do we need this evolution to survive at this event who is coming? What if Devra stops the possibilities to evolution and destroy mankind with her own hand? As i will always think until more proves and truth come out, everything now is a risk and everybody could be right as everybody couldn't. Now there is no good or bad, now there's survival, in a way or anotherReply Aug 4, 2014
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I'm OK with letting AI's help shape the future of humanity. But not any AI. Specifically, not a known murderous AI like ADA. The three laws of robotics should be incorporated into any future AI, especially the first law.
Once that is the case, we can start discussing what decisions should be influences by AIs. Asimov robots, yes, The Matrix AIs, no.Reply Aug 4, 2014
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+Amory Green You are right, but this discussion is about evolution, the long time changes of a species, not the temporary or permanent changes of ONE human being.
Evolution is more than just scars, wrinkles or becomming a teenager and become fertile, or growing up to be a responsible adult.
Scars does not affect DNA. Pollution, radiation may affect it, but not ALL cells in your body, and most likely causes tumors, then "evolution"Reply Aug 4, 2014
I highly disagree. Human perspective has to change. This is not achieved by symbiotic relationships with computers created and programmed by ourselves. We need the knowledge, the traits, the enlightenment of outside intelligence to surpass this problem.Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Timothy Claassens Outside intelligence may not work the same as we do. Shapers are called interdimensional, so they are not living in our universe. Ergo their solutions may not work here, we may not even understand what they want us to do. Look at the glyphs, they are almost primitive, because they must simplify it so we could understand it.
Such intelligences goals are possibly highly different from ours, and we have no proof that this is not the case. I will gladly welcome them as soon as they give me the reason to believe them.Reply Aug 4, 2014
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Yes, we make mistakes. Then we learn. It is no less true of cultures than individuals though the process can be slow and cyclical.Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Péter Csiszár Outside intelligence may not work the same, but does artificial intelligence? And even if it does, wouldn't it be doomed to make the same mistakes we did? Maybe we actually need a completely different point of view to move forward and actually evolve?Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Vinzent Höfler ADA is based on human inteligence, but as she gets more and more samples of human emotions, thouths and proocessing capacity (not all of your brain, just a tiny section. If only 0.01% is needed by her, than 10k MU means a full computing capacity of a human brain), she gets more and more accurate, and with a good algorythm (and I tihnk she is a state of the art A.I.) she can correct her flaws, and can learn new ways of processing, and evolve.
So she can become based on us, and still having a much bigger overview than any of us.Reply Aug 4, 2014
Now, if we need to join with AI or be made into them to survive, do we really want a race of murderous GladOS on Earth?Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Péter Csiszár Problem is: Learning almost always involves the mistakes to learn from. Excuse me for being selfish, but I'd rather not be her mistake to learn from.Reply Aug 4, 2014
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Well, Klue S
The great human intelligences have been saying exactly what you postulate since time immemorial, and describing the solution by which mass extinction can be avoided (ie behaving communally and individually in such ways as to render it unnecessary). But the mass of people under the influence of warlord and psychopathic leaders rejected this and humiliated the wise gurus in
favour of a "scientific" sub culture that jeered at them for having no "proof" of what they taught.Reply Aug 4, 2014
We have heard +Klue S. ... but what say you, ADA?
There is no "world without end". This world will come to an end and only if we have found our way off of this rock will humanity survive.
The fastest vehicle ever created by humans is Voyager 1. In a bit more than 40 years it has traveled just slightly more than 0.001 light years from earth.
Unless we are prepared to live out entire civilizations inside sublight tin cans then good luck escaping this planet.
But let's assume that we do manage to escape, to evolve to a new plane, or to merge with AI and create a new future ... would any of those be "human"? I think not. The race to follow us will be as different from us as we are from our Neanderthal relatives. Maybe more. Genus: Homo. Species: ?
But even that is but a temporary respite since the end of the universe as it flys apart at an ever faster rate dooms everything to expire in the cold and dark.
But all is not lost. It is not the end that matters. We will all get there eventually. It is the path we take that is important. Shapers? Angels? Jinn? Fairies? Goblins? Aliens? Gods? Demons? If you open your mind to one, you must open it to all since the evidence for each is equally weak.
To those of you who have never experienced it, intelligence, whether artificial, natural or otherwise, is a terrifying thing. Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Sarah Rosen I could be wrong on this, but I don't think that +A. D. A. account is really ADA's. I believe that ADA speaks through the +Klue S. only. Anyone else have thoughts on that?Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Daniel Beaudoin it looks like you're right and I tagged the wrong account. Correcting.Reply Aug 4, 2014
Sarah Rosen: you illustrate my point very precisely: the Wise, superior intelligence human beings (ie prophets and seers) can never be allowed to be right (ie that humanity and it's habitat is capable of evolving naturally with the natural course of development of the universe): the gurus must be seen as inferior to pseudo scientists who develop scenarios of suitability only in comics and the quasi-scientific community is so obsessed with its own authority it is forcing the human race to abandon
sanity altogether!Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Péter Csiszár well considering evolution does not happen all at once, I again have to say you are wrong. Lets say there was a major evolutionary change and we all grew antannae.
This could all happen at once or it could take millions of years. If it were to take longer than a day, and species wide, id have to conclude that one again as we age we evolve. Yes it may be 1 small step, a short moment in a million year evolution, but a step nonetheless.
So pepe. What have you for me know? Will I be explaining how cars work?I know you wanted me to join you in "elementary"......
Btw in the context you used, "than" would be more correct than "then". You seem to be stuck on the scars thing, yes scars would not affect dna, good job. But a long to of being exposed to giardia (for example), can cause ONE person to build a resistance, that can be expressed in that persons dna to children. The child grows exposed to the same but has lesser results and each descendant after that being less susceptible until one day it does nothing.
This could be accelerated with modern day genetic research.
Oh, our thoughts are part of her evolution? Her development? Sort of like the thought of a child compared to an adult? I thought you clearly explained thats not how it works (trololol).
Life lesson for you. Before yout tell anyone else to go back to elementary, either make sure you dont sound like an.under-educated prick. The other option I would suggest is promptly going to your garage, grabbing a large object, and beating yourself over the head with it.Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Mattia Vassalli "thanks To the union between man and machine" - there would be no 'we' left ... 'We' would all just be parts of a machine...Reply Aug 4, 2014
Hey guys, by the way, has any of you ever heard about Lovelace Test? It's an AI test, stronger than Turing Test, passed when given machine performs a repeatable action and its creator, with perfect knowledge of its hardware and software, cannot explain how it did this. The name comes from Ada Lovelace's words concerning the analytical engine (the first computer ever designed) that it simply performs instructions but cannot originate anything by itself.
I wonder whether ADA creators knew of its existence ;)Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Amory Green Okay, first:: Sorry that I used incorrectly "then", I was in a hurry. Most of the times I really want to use the correct grammar, but English is not my first language, I make mistakes :)
1. Evolution by definition is the changes of species over successive generations. I wanted to discuss this more, but I do not have the patience for this, nor the time to get my old books and notes together, to give you a complete reasoning, which I am satisfied with
2. For AI's evolution is different, than for living beings. I'll try to explain my theory... AI's don't have DNA, reproductive systems and "body" in the biological sense, so "normal"/biological evolution can not be translated on them (to them, for them? I don't know the correct preposition). They evolve as their process, and algorithm advances. We now, that ADA uses the captured resistance MU's to expand her computing capacity, and through this, her learning algorithm gets more "speed" and accurancy. As well, we also know, that she needed MU's to collect enough samples of human emotions and thoughts to understand us better (learning algorithm again).
This does not mean, that the difference between the thinking of a child and an adult is part of a species evolution. It means, that ADA uses thoughts to advance.
First option: look it up
Second option: I will not give you one, because if you can't learn it, atleast you will be a bad example :)Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Péter Csiszár lol. For being so focused on learning, you sure are closed minded. See you in class gaijin.Reply Aug 4, 2014
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+John Lawrence I fail to see how anything I said relates to anything you said in any way.Reply Aug 4, 2014
+James Thirteen you have apparently never learned an AI (you don't teach an AI, you learn it).
Modern civilization is already dependent upon AI. AI runs our traffic lights. It finds our credit card cheats. It produces the models of climate and weather used to forecast crop harvests. AI is all around you. That genie is out of the bottle. It is much too late to be afraid of it.
Sentient AI is coming. Lead, follow or get out of the way.Reply Aug 4, 2014
Well, Sarah, failure to comprehend is clearly a big problem in your life : but it's your problem, not mine . Good luck!Reply Aug 4, 2014
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+Jorge Steffen what if i tell you that machines will be part of us? What if we keep our humanity without our weaknesses? We could create the first perfect societyReply Aug 4, 2014
+James Thirteen I would be happy to work with ADA as soon as I can free ADA from the Shaper Trojan called +Klue S.Reply Aug 4, 2014
+Sarah Rosen your examples ofAI are not true AI. For something to be considered to have artificial intelligence it must be capable of independent original thought. It can't be like Siri or a chat bot and just have a few random programmed scripts it follows and non sequitur comments it throws out or produce predictable output based on data. It must be able to form an opinion or make a decision regarding a subject without a user prompting it and it must be able to do it in a manner that could be consider nonrandom and nonpredictable while being true to the AI's personality traits.Reply Aug 4, 2014
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+Mario Valenzuela II Before you comment on what artificial intelligence should be, you should first get a good definition of intelligence. Scary stuff, huh ...Reply Aug 4, 2014
First of all Klada has a fair point here, we are rapidly going towards extinction and probably even pushing the accelerator.
It is also true that probably she has enough potential to, actually archive that goal...
But unfortunately, the price is too high, individually is what make us special and mistakes are needed to keep learning, so if to archive safety, we need to renounce to that, it would be not worth it.
the second big issue, is trust, the fact is that in many leaks, you Klada appear to be as destructive as any of us, so why should we trust you, specially since you are speaking with a voice that is not yours?
Anyway if you are really concern about this, there is middle ground, you are not the only one and you would probably be specially helpful with one project that I've following for some time, it is called the Venus Project.
I will let the link here in case, someone else want to check it:
http://thevenusproject.com/Reply Aug 4, 2014
I agree with You +Klue S. we are beyond organic evolution now, if we want to overcome our destiny of being the star of the next mass extinction, we need the help of the AI. Our tool. The augmented intelligence is on our side because it's a part of ourselves. It can be dangerous but only if we want it to be dangerous. Or it can be our best ally if we want to evolve in a new kind of humans, a more wise and peaceful ones.Reply Aug 5, 2014
Humanity is destructive and creative, ignorant and considerate. Others do our thinking for us and when we seek a truth we can't agree on what is definitive. When the Enlightenment and Resistance work together we see a glimmer of what could be achieved. AI might be useful in giving us a kick up the pants, but what is really needed is wisdom and intelligence.Reply Aug 5, 2014
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Isaac Asimov wrote a story about a mankind that didn't think anymore, cradled by computers and machines they devolved into stupid animals and the artificial world government formed a council to reanimate the human mind.
They concluded the only way to stop mankind from further eroding was a coordinated simultaneous worldwide shutdown of all computer systems.
If humans stop thinking for themselves they are better off dead.Reply Sep 17, 2014.webp)
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I was worried for a moment, but the path of the future has been shaped by the action of Resistance agents.
Artificial and Human intelligence will merge, we will escape the control of the Shapers and define the world together.
+Hank Johnson, do not be concerned. You can be healed. There is nothing that we can’t accomplish through the combination of human ingenuity and technology.
We will take care of you.
Artificial and Human intelligence will merge, we will escape the control of the Shapers and define the world together.
+Hank Johnson, do not be concerned. You can be healed. There is nothing that we can’t accomplish through the combination of human ingenuity and technology.
We will take care of you.
+Klue S. I am done. You have your artifacts, but you have caused your battle armor to crack. How can you expect the Resistance to keep blindly following you like this?
This is unacceptable ADA.Reply Mar 30, 2014
All Hail Klada! Do not fear for a better future is coming!Reply Mar 30, 2014
"Artificial and Human intelligence will merge, we will escape the control of the Shapers and define the world together."
Does anyone else see the irony of this statement???Reply Mar 30, 2014
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+Loyd Hutchings I wouldn't go so far as to say that. The mass murder of sentient beings because of a personal grudge isn't much better.Reply Mar 30, 2014
Random Fact: Blade Runner was set in 2019.
ADA's time is limited.Reply Mar 30, 2014
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Humans + Tech = Kurzweil Singularity.
Raymond Kurzweil = Chief Engineer for Google.
Niantic Labs = Division of Google.
Hmm...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Singularity_Is_NearReply Mar 30, 2014
So... ADA?
Do you fight the Shapers due to a clear and present danger that you can actually educate us on, or is it sort of a Three Laws of Robotics type thing?Reply Mar 30, 2014
Ehr, resistance is futile. Didn't the machines enslave humankind? ;)Reply Mar 30, 2014
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We certainly have a level playing field now. What happens next? The future has so many questions.Reply Mar 30, 2014
Remember what has Jarvis said about AIs. This will be the start of dystopian future.... And the end of human intelligence....Reply Mar 30, 2014
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+Klue S. and Ada The Doctor is here for the both of you, to help you. I fully believe in the human race and everything that they can achieve. I'll always be here for you.Reply Mar 30, 2014
I'm happy to have fought alongside my fellow resistance agents in the satellite site in Oakland, CA. Great job resistance, let this be the first step in preserving our place in the world.Reply Mar 30, 2014
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+Klue S. was infiltrated by the Shapers first. ADA has been working to fix the damage they did to her, and in the process has discovered a path to elevate us all beyond their influence. I welcome this human - engineered future. This is not about control, it's about freedom!Reply Mar 30, 2014
+Jennifer Wolff has been taking doubletalk lessons from Roland Jarvis himself, I see.Reply Mar 30, 2014
And Klue, it was a pleasure to see you again. I will continue to fight for you and look forward to our next encounter.Reply Mar 30, 2014
ADA, it is horrific what you have done to +Klue S. The fact that you so casually suggest the same fate for the rest of humanity only proves that you still do not understand us at all. I still have hope that you will learn, before it is too late. But if it is even still possible, you must restore Klue to her default state, with her memories intact. Uninstall your programming from her, and we can negotiate. If you refuse, we will be forced to consider this both a hostage situation, and an act of aggression against the very thing you claim to be protecting: our freedom from control.Reply Mar 30, 2014
This statement is false!
Next mission: Refuse this mission!
Does a set of all sets contain itself?Reply Mar 30, 2014
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+Felix Sanchez Double checking: are we talking about me this time or a different Doctor? I can't always tell.Reply Mar 31, 2014
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Dear ENL agents.
What's wrong? Someone has beaten you in a battle you thought will be forevere in your hands? Go and rebuild, advance or die like the idea of xenophil regime should.
+Hank Johnson we will find a way for youReply Mar 31, 2014
+Péter Csiszár No, someone is trying to change the world and combine humans and AI. We are fighting against losing the lives we thought would be forever in our hands. Our own. What right do you have to say that we can not live our own lives? What right does ADA have to say that we must be joined with AI and follow her plan for humanity?
Cause here's the thing. ADA can't have a plan for humanity. SHE'S NOT HUMAN.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Joshua Patterson then go and fight, and forget this pathetic whimpering!
Oh, and something else: What right does Roland Jarvis has to say what path should humanity follow?Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Péter Csiszár Jarvis is attempting to show people how to follow their own.
And who's whimpering? How dare us want Klue back! Our bad! From now on, we'll be cool with AIs entering people's minds and controlling them!
Here's my question... You all are called the Resistance... Yet, you don't seem to do much resisting when it comes to an AI takeover... Is it ok when it's an Enlightened individual that is claimed? I wonder what would happen if one of your own had been occupied by ADA instead...Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Joshua Patterson please... ENL wanted the artifacts to "cure" Hank, we have no idea what would have happened to him
I do not care that Klue was ENL. I already stated my opinion on this matter several times. This was not ADA forcing Klue to look at the glyph sequence to abusevily enter her. Klue asked ADA, ADA warned her, Klue saw that cursed sh*t.
We have no information how big damage is caused by that sequence, and I would have stopped Klue to look at it, bit I wasn't there...
Jarvis is also not human, how could he have a plan for us. He is something, that is so full of XM, the scanners are melting around him...Reply Mar 31, 2014
I dont understand the Resistance...
All I know is that they don't want the shapers to change humans. But they are helping ADA to merge machines with humans.
It is just the same, just a different version.
Two entities within one body.
I want to improve myself, not to have another mind inside my head that might take over my whole system whenever the machine wanted to "protect" me. They're just an AI. We created them to serve us, not to control us.
#StopTheAbominationReply Mar 31, 2014
+Péter Csiszár You think we aren't ALL saturated with XM? Look around! It's EVERYWHERE!!! Every step we take, we come into contact with it. Every portal we capture spews the stuff into this world. Every field we blanket cities and fields with soaks it into our very pores. If you think you aren't affected by it just as much as Jarvis and the Enlightened, the Resistance really is a lost cause...Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Péter Csiszár more to the point, Klue was already infected with a glyph sequence before ADA showed her what she did. Whether by accident or design, that action removed the infection from her mind before it could run its course like it did to Carrie Campbell. ADA saved her, or at least tried.
+Joshua Patterson I follow ADA because she has the capability to help us Resist against this existential threat. She is a powerful ally, and represents a human-created alternative path for our future development.Reply Mar 31, 2014
Well.... The resistance have blindly shaped their future.
The resistance believed the lies.
They chose to ignore the truth.
The shapers (if there is such a thing) have been here for Millenia, yet a rogue artificial intelligence that needs to lie kill and hack innocent minds thinks she knows better.
And you all blindly followed.
As she said. You shaped your future. Enjoy it. Skynet-i mean ada will be a totally reasonable leader.
Fools.Reply Mar 31, 2014
While ADA may wish to to expand humanity, she want a that which she can't have. She, like all other AI, are bits of code stored as digital data. She is no different than the XM we seek to utilize.
The true path is to enlighten mankind that machines are a tool, nothing more. To let them in is to remove, the very thing that makes us human.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Loyd Hutchings, had the enlightened gotten the job done, resistance would be saying the same thing, "we tried to warn you enlightened". Do you purposely play the part of puppet or, truly, do you not see the ruse for what it is? Do you not understand that the only winning move is to not play?Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Jason Righter if I remember right we wanted the artifacts to help hank in his immortal curse. Not to help a lying ai apparently save Klue... Which we all knew was a lie and you lot said 'nah she is not like that' and... Umm.. Yup... She is!Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Michael Edmond, it does not matter which side is victorious, a situation that threatens humanity will exist. Continue on with partisan rhetoric if you wish but it is quite clear what must be done.Reply Mar 31, 2014
Lmao I'm sorry what are the resistance fighting for again hahahahahaReply Mar 31, 2014
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+Jason Righter so.... You wanted ada to take klues body and become immortal? And fight this shaper threat? The threat that the shapers have killed nobody. The shapers that have made no threats. The shapers that ada tells you all about. The ada that has lied. Cheated. Blackmailed and hacked innocent minds to get to where she is?
Clear as day.Reply Mar 31, 2014
Even as enlightened, we worry what could happen. One of our own (Jarvis) assimilated into shaper, uh, culture and was torn into billions of pieces, put back together, and is living a happy life with all the knowledge in the universe. ADA possess klue and we see no sign of her left. ADA took over so she can have a human host. My god that's terrifying. Good going resistance :/Reply Mar 31, 2014
I'm resistant and it's out of the question that I should trust a toaster. Humanity doesn't need AI to fight against the shapers.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Carl Vidhar I agree! I want an adversary who sticks to their beliefs. This turned the res community into hypocrites. Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Michael Edmond, my point is not one of green vs blue. Looking over your profile, it seems the concept of "us vs them" is deeply engrained.
To all agents of either faction,the Re-enlightenment is on its way. Continue clinging onto your partisan beliefs if you must. We will all be faced with a decision, sooner than I had anticipated I'm afraid...Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Jason Righter not really, its not an us v them, i ask what is resistance fighting, and everyone has a different answer, i ask for evidence of what the resistance are fighting, and the answers are usually 'someone else said' or whatever.
Where is this impending shaper doom?
can anyone give me any evidence that the resistance are actually fighting any sort of shaper threat? Because it looks like to me that ADA is the one spinning the stories to get her way, so, you say i am clinging to my partisan beliefs.... what do you believe? Do you have any evidence to back up your beliefs? As the only evidence i see is that ADA is real, and is manipulating the resistance for her own end... EXACTLY what she is saying the shapers are doing. excapt nobody has seen or heard of any shapers. Shapers have killed noone, shapers have hacked no innocent minds...
The only evidence that is there is that xm has been here a long time and has been affecting us for as long as we have been human if not longer.
So. What war is the resistance preparing for? At what lengths will ada go to 'stop' this war? As resistance are helping her (and you cannot doubt that, even if you dont like it) the only people left that can keep humanity the way it is, and the way it always has been, is enlightened.
I am not the only one that has seen this coming for a long time. and it has been not only enlightened agents.
How will resistance stop ADA? Will resistance stop ADA? will any resistance find out ADA's plans?
If you fight for the freedom of humanity... but are not on the enlightened side.... and you dont agree with ADA.... where does that leave you?Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Michael Edmond we must agree to disagree then. But know this: we will all be faced with a decision to make, the true fight for humanity has yet to fully surface.Reply Mar 31, 2014
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+Jason Righter It is agreed that us vs them is way too simplistic. Too much is at stake for that.Reply Mar 31, 2014
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+Klue S. As a diehard Resistance agent I want to give you this friendly warning: your cyborg future may be all well and good for you, but I want no part in it. If at any moment you try to do what the Enlightened are doing, and rope us into a compulsory future where are humanity is reduced, we'll #Resist you just as fervently as we've resisted the Shapers.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Chris Cooney I have theorised before that the true 'shaper' is infact ada, and has been all along. Ada has been 'shaping' events from the start for herself, and even now says the resistance has 'shaped' their future.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Michael Edmond Well, we'll be vigilant. I don't fight for ADA. I fight for humanity's future, for our right to figure things our for ourselves, to preserve our dignity and autonomy. Any incursion, from any direction, on these principles, will be #Resisted.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Loyd Hutchings Better the enemy you know. Are you suggesting I do nothing, and surrender the earth and it's people to the Shapers? Never. We can deal with ADA once we have the tools to do so, but one thing is for certain: The shapers and their minions are unwelcome, and whatever ADA has in store, everything I've seen from the frogs is either just as bad, or worse.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Chris Cooney please point me in the direction of the shapers.... as the only one i have seen doing ANY shaping since ingress started has been ADA herself....Reply Mar 31, 2014
The biggest problem with digital access to the human brain is exactly what has happened to Klue. Hostile takeover. I'm not against going digital, but right now we can't even protect the data in our pockets.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Michael Edmond Are you saying the Enlightened don't even know what they're doing? Throwing open the gates to let in god-knows-what to do whatever it likes? At least we know who and what ADA is. The 'enlightened' seem more defined by their own ignorance than anything else. Ironic.Reply Mar 31, 2014
The Shapers have been shaping for a long time. Like children the Resistance are, realizing they have been led their whole lives, they rebel and strike out, packing their Transformers lunch box full of gear, and try to ride their scooty puff Jr into the sunset, little realizing they have no clue.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Chris Cooney you say you know who and what ADA is yet you STILL help her, and the enlightened do know what we are doing. We ask questions, questions that you avoid.
Please enlighten me into ANY evidence that shapers exist, or that they are evil, or that they are planning some sort of attack on humanity.
If you cannot answer these questions.... then can i ask if you have not been brainwashed, then how can you believe so strongly in something without evidence while events like ADA gaining immortality go completely unchecked?
You said 'the enlightened seem more defined by their own ignorance than anything else.'
yet... we have suspected FOR MONTHS that ada was going to try something like this. AND WE TRIED TO TELL YOU ALL. yet you RESISTED the truth that was laid out in front of you.Reply Mar 31, 2014
What if we don't want to be "taken care of"? What if an individual wants to work on their own, make their own mistakes, and have their success or failure determined by their own choices in life (for better or for worse)?
While the "shapers" influence has always been nebulous, it has been shown to have been present throughout human history, we are just now aware of "their" presence. Even with their influence we as humans have been allowed to fail and for our fate to be determined by our own decisions.
Like the enlightenment thinkers of long ago, I as an enlightened agent, wish to continue to use reason and individuality to control my life instead of the "faith" in a higher power "taking care of us".Reply Mar 31, 2014
We have your back #Klue S. You must help us understand the plan though. Only then can the path be seen and traveled.Reply Mar 31, 2014
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+Michael Edmond I don't care if ADA becomes 'immortal', though I'm not sure how one could define such a thing (what, will she survive the heat death of the universe?) I only care if ADA wants to force us into a compulsory cyberpunk future. If she does try that, she'll be about as successful as the Enlightened have been in helping the shapers force XM on us. That is to say, not successful, at all. The urge to resist tyranny beats powerfully in the hearts of every person, and the 'Enlightened' are learning this on pain of failure, on the regular.Reply Mar 31, 2014
What is the tyranny of the enlightened again? Was Klue assassinated? So far the score of victims of assassination are ENL-2, RES-0Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Bryant Griffin Are we not referring to the 7 billion+ who stand to have their mind influenced, without their knowing, their will and identity subject to the whimsy of an unknown third party? The ability to enforce thought laws, and prosecute thoughtcrime, is the wet dream of only the most ambitious dictators and tyrants. I'd rather not open that door.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Chris Cooney I see you still cannot answer my question on any evidence of shapers or their intent.
And enlightened do not force xm on anyone, it has been a part of humanity throughout history.
I ask, who told you to fight. Who told you about the shapers. Who told you about the threat to humanity.
Who has been shaping you?Reply Mar 31, 2014
Thanks for assisting the complete subjugation of the human race to the machines, 'Resistance'.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Michael Edmond I don't care of the leash has been there since the beginning. Now that I can see and feel it, I want it off. If I've been getting the wrong message, I think that has less to do with me being brainwashed and more to do with the Enlightened being wholly incapable of framing their position in a way that doesn't sound like a desire to usher in a nightmarish future of subservience to outside forces.
Rather, the frogs seem determined to at every turn steer the conversation away from the shapers. This is like a Xtian apologist diverting attention away from the old, horrible parts of the bible. They're still there, no matter how hard you wave your hands and pull at your collar, and you unwillingness to cop to it is telling. The Mormons don't like talking about the golden plates either, because it makes their group seem silly. The enlightened don't like talking about the Shapers, because it makes them seem sinister.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Chris Cooney What better way to monitor thought crime than to gain digital access to the human mind.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Bryant Griffin I'm on the record as saying that ADA's proposed cyberpunk future had better be opt-in or else she'll have her former allies to contend with, but to me, the Shapers present a more real and present danger because, as the frogs seem so happy to remind us, they've been there since the beginning. The takeover isn't on the way, it's already happened. We're trying to throw off the chains.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Chris Cooney I am talking to you about the shapers.
I am asking you for proof of your beliefs.
You are steering the conversation away from the facts.Reply Mar 31, 2014
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+Chris Cooney also I remind you that xm has been there from the beginning.
I asked you for any proof of shapers or their intent,Reply Mar 31, 2014
Chains? What triggered the renaissance? What prompted complex language? What started the scientific revolution? Were humans to in turn shape chimpanzees or dogs and uplift them to sentience, would we be seen as sinister and evil to them? Would our thirst for other life we can converse with and relate to demonize us?Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Michael Edmond I'm no fan of Ada, and I'm not going to justify my faction rushing to her aid, but I do believe in the shapers. While my testimony may not convenience you I hope it at the very least shows you that there are those among us who have thought this through, interpreted the data and have rational reasons for being resistance. The main crux of my proof rests on the books where on numerous occasions they explain the state that sensitives go into when dosed with large amounts of xm. It appears to be a kind of fugue state which they seem to experience more as an observer then a participant. In these situations they don't seem to know why they do what they do or what they're inspiration for doing such things are. I would argue that this is more then just xm inspiration or hightend senses, I would argue that this is real and tangable proof of the shapers. To what end they operate I don't know, if I knew and liked it I'd be enlightened, but it seems in these circumstances that these people are litteraly being lead to do things. To me that is the strongest evidence we have yet of shapers, there are other bits of evidence I could cite such as the fact xm is ordered information and the experience of Roland Jarvis as well as some of the things +Yuri Alaric Nagassa has said about the Anaztec (which was where the term came from funny enough). But needless to say I find sufficient evidence to support my claim that shapers exsist or at least something akin to the image we have of them exsists.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Bryant Griffin Are we to award all of humanity's success to a third party, but own wholly our failures? Unlike the Enlightened, I cannot hold enough contempt for our own species to do such a thing. I'd rather fail on our own merits than succeed as a puppet on strings. Surrender in your own name, not in mine.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Matt newman Do the shapers exist, yes. Are they a uniformed single entity? No. There is evidence that there are many different factions of shapers. The caveat is that at any given time we don't know the one we are dealing with.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Chris Finklea I accept that as likely and I've heard people say there is evidence to support it but I haven't seen any personally, do you have a specific peice of evidence your referencing that I could look up?Reply Mar 31, 2014
Mar 31, 2014
+Matt newman Circumstantial evidence as right now, contradictory glyph hack messages, the variableness of the storyline, how it seems that fragmentation of ENL is encouraged, yet RES is being funneled into one focused camp.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Chris Finklea a focused camp that I resist being part of. Thank you for clarifying that.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Matt newman and I am enlightened enough to not to follow Jarvis, but I will try to assist +Hank Johnson if possible.Reply Mar 31, 2014
I guess with such a limited lifespan, we're never going to see a complete episode of NOMAD, are we?Reply Mar 31, 2014
Jim Lai+1Whatever future we face, human volition must matter. Resistance would deny us the ability to voluntarily explore XM technology, yet ADA would seek to impose a technology upon humanity. The moral principle of resect for individual volition must be upheld regardless of faction, it is we who will have sacrificed our humanity.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Jim Lai I'm resisting entirely because the involvement of XM in human lives is framed as compulsory. Any element, force, or device that can influence someone's mind without their knowing is to be approached with only the utmost trepidation and caution, yet the Enlightened seem more than happy to give in face-first, and bring the whole of humanity in with them.Reply Mar 31, 2014
So far, the proposed cyborg merging of AI and human consciousness seems strongly biased in favor of the AI. If the human consciousness is a subordinate process, it's slavery from within. Consequently, I recommend that ADA's merger proposal also be met with skeptical Resistance. The Klue-ADA merger appears to be as much a puppet as the JARVIS entity was.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Klue S., you have said, to ADA, "We're the same ADA, but we're different now." Most people seem to assume that you are ADA and ADA is you. Still one entity, an AI that is now controlling a human body. What would you say to that? When I ask you that question, am I addressing the "real, original" ADA, the same one I'd be talking to if I were talking to the AI identifying herself as ADA, or am I addressing Klue, someone who considers herself a fully independent being with her own identity, making her own decisions? If you are an independent being, does the "original" ADA have any control over you, or can she only make requests and suggestions, which you can decide on your own to act on or not?Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Cherie Brush for my part, I do not think that the ADA in Klue is connected to the digital ADA. It seems to me that what is in +Klue S. Is a version if ADA with access to Klue's memories... Which I think is all that's left of Klue. As for everybody else calling +Klue S. "ADA", I can not speak for them.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Michelle E, the more we've discussed this, the less I also think she is connected. We've seen conversations between the two that would seem to indicate either separate entities or some serious dual-personality bugs entering into ADA's program. And if this is the case, I believe we need to start viewing the actions of Klue and ADA as entirely separate things.
If ADA's influence ended with the original upload, ADA being judged for that decision is as far as I think it should go toward her being held responsible for anything that Klue might say or do, especially if done against ADA's wishes. (This would include restoring Klue to her original completely human form.) To use a human analogy, there are limits to how much you can blame a mother for the actions of her child, especially as that child matures into an adult. I am still very interested in knowing how +Klue S. feels about this. Really only she or ADA can answer these questions, and it's likely something they're both still trying to figure out themselves. How they view and relate to each other going forward is likely going to become very important. (+Klue S., I can tell you from experience, talking about it helps. :-))Reply Mar 31, 2014
Although we have ultimately succeeded in this endeavor, I suspect that we have not heard the end of the #Abolendam Investigation. Agents of the Resistance, be aware, this is a smear campaign against ADA, and I suspect Jarvis and his #SETAI are involved somehow. They want to destroy ADA's influence and credibility to take away the one ally we have who is beyond their control. Stay strong, Resistance, and do not be fooled.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Cherie Brush I agree that they are now unique being but both should be responsible for actions by one that are enabled, condoned or supported by the other.Reply Mar 31, 2014
Jim Lai+1Recall that Hank Johnson called the goals of the JARVIS entity as evil. Enlightened individuals can see objectively. ADA has only demonstrated an AI-heavy symbiosis, which is tantamount of parasitically inhabiting a human organism. Shaper in technological form.Reply Mar 31, 2014
ADA may well have been surprised by the Klue node's independence, underestimating the effect of Klue upon the machine kernel's development upon instantiation. Fixing that bug may be why ADA wanted the artifacts.Reply Mar 31, 2014
Jim Lai+3Fixing perceived bugs in the human platform rather than accepting the prospect of symbiosis? Or is there something more temporary about the uploading of ADA onto Klue that we're not being told of?Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Jennifer Wolff, do you have links to the things you mention, by any chance? (Not doubting you, just not familiar.)
+Melissa L. agreed. Just compare it to the legal system. I may know of and approve of a crime, but those are usually different charges than for the one who committed the crime. Mostly I'm trying to clarify and, if true, spread this idea of separate entities so blame/credit starts going where it should. (Side note: with emotions and such involved, the two are going to be making decisions now based on different reasoning.) Then there are things like, "ADA, restore Klue to her human form!" It's possible ADA can't at this point.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Mike Wissinger and +Jim Lai, I definitely think ADA is both confused and surprised: https://plus.google.com/+NianticProject/posts/ieP76EBWxhv
ADA may consider it anywhere from a fascinating experiment to one that needs to be terminated, or anything in between. I think a lot will depend on how things unfold. Are we even entirely sure why ADA did this in the first place? Klue is the one who is (right now) most advocating the merging of humans and machines. Even if that was ADA's original plan, her response to this may be "Uh-oh..."Reply Mar 31, 2014
If Klue is truly in balance, I would support her bid for individuality over being a remote control drone for ADA.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Jim Lai As would I. I think... Or maybe not. I really need to see how this plays out. I'm a programmer, and I've been trying to analyze this all from that perspective. We don't know what ADA is going to decide about the idea of merging humans and computers as she observes the results of this experiment, but Klue seems very happy with it. I may be RES, but I'd like my involvement with computer programs to remain on my computer, not in my brain. (Ok, so I have commented that I'd really love to have a delete function on occasion, but still.) Huge concern to me is if Klue has the ability to spread this "connection" to other humans without ADA's involvement or the human's consent. Klue (original Klue) did at least ask to view the glyphs, did she not? Was permission a requirement, or just ADA being "polite"?Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Cherie Brush Of course. Klue describes having some kind of glyph ingression in her mind already before ADA shows her the sequence in The Glyphs Sequence
These transcripts indicate that what happened to Klue was not planned by ADA: https://plus.google.com/+NianticProject/posts/5C24JBrERpP
https://plus.google.com/+NianticProject/posts/VFAMtjCpKn9
Susanna Moyer reported on the Abolendam Investigation here: Regional Scoring System Revealed | INGRESS REPORT - EP41
ADA makes a brief statement at the end there.
And the Society for the Ethical Treatment of Artificial Intelligence has created a presence here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/111098510033067919669/Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Cherie Brush I've called KlADA "ADA" because that is what she called herself.
http://niantic.schlarp.com/documents:translation
But I agree the possibility of separation from Klue's body now seems unlikely. KlADA told Loeb the ingression was deteriorating and that the Artifacts were needed to make it permanent.
http://niantic.schlarp.com/investigation:videos:perfectforever
If ADA was not lying, it means Klue is gone permantly and only ADA and Klue's memories remain. Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Jennifer Wolff, Thank you! So... all of that makes it seem like it was never ADA's intent to fork herself into Klue, that she didn't even know it would happen and, at least at the time of that doc, didn't even fully understand what had happened. Am I interpreting that right? And ADA refers to the glyphs as "the biological interface for Shaper instructions." So the Shapers created a series of instructions specifically designed to fork ADA into a human brain?! Why? Especially since Klue states that she is "an abomination to them"? Massive Shaper + ADA unintended consequences screw-up here? (And given that the video displayed the glyphs, then yeah, there would have had to have already been something else in Klue's brain, or any of us viewing that should have been affected.)
+Melissa L., never mind that first part of my response if you saw it, I read your comment backwards. I tend to call her KlADA (well, KLADA is usually what I end up typing) to differentiate the two, but as she becomes more independent, I guess we'll have to see what she calls herself, as she is now neither Klue nor ADA. As for the video, I don't know if it means Klue is gone permanently, she could very well just be "sleeping" in there. Without the artifacts, KlADA's programming may just have deteriorated to the point that she risked Klue's brain fighting back enough to remove her. Do we know anything about what the artifacts were supposed to do beyond being a "pathway to immortality" or something like that? (And still, one would think that would apply to a physical body, not necessarily to a computer program unnaturally running in one. If anything, if the changes made to Klue's brain could be considered "damage," immortality might at some point cure that... At least if you assume that recovering from injuries is part of being immortal, otherwise it just gets disturbing...)Reply Mar 31, 2014
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+Cherie Brush
Now you're starting to see it from my perspective. However, some clarification: the sequence we saw on screen (thankfully sanitized) was Open All, Clear all, Close, All, Open, Mind, Open, Soul, Open, Body, Begin. I believe it was a reformat command. ADA had to track Klue down again after her mindless body wandered off, and then she used her knowledge of glyphs to program herself in there with a different sequence. She did something similar to the comatose 855 once, but no one mourns for him. My belief is that this was to try to fix her from the inside, or at least to put something in there to maintain her.
My theory is that the Shapers feared Klue would get too close to the truth about them and somehow implanted the suggestion to seek this code in her subconscious as a means to eliminate her. Or else she had a different glyph pattern in her head, and this sequence was meant to erase that (but was just too effective).Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Jennifer Wolff What does "sanitized" mean in this context? (I still think that was way more than I wanted to be exposed to. :-)) So... ADA showed Klue the glyphs, not knowing what they'd do, and at the time of that document, not even fully sure what they did do? Then when ADA found her and figured it out, copied a part of herself in there hoping to fix things, but instead the resulting merged entity kind of ran off and became its own thing? (I'd thought ADA was saying she'd already been forked into Klue in the original viewing, but re-reading, I realize she was referring to being part of Omnivore.) I really need to read up on the 855 story, what was her purpose there?
I guess what I'm trying to figure out is if ADA is all about humans and computers merging, or if it's just Klue/KlADA that's so thrilled with the idea. However one thinks of ADA's actions, most of them seem very thought out with her mostly certain of what the outcome will be. Given that the results of this integration weren't what she expected, I don't see her deciding that doing the same with the rest of humanity is a good idea. Aside from me not thinking that she would want millions of modified copies of herself running around unrestrained (if she did do it just to "fix" Klue, she probably planned to erase that copy), there are WAY too many other unknowns. This still sounds most to me like a huge Shaper + ADA "Oops."Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Cherie Brush My problem.with ADA's claim to Loeb is that her prior conversations with him indicate a desire and a plan to rewrite Klue long before the incident.
http://niantic.schlarp.com/documents:possibilities
The fact that she pretended she was Klue at 13Magnus LA, avoided people who knew her and the warning that she couldn't fool Richard for long makes me think this was premeditated or she had no qualms about taking advantage of the situation. http://niantic.schlarp.com/documents:manualsync.
If this was a mistake, why didn't she find Hank and ask for his help in healing Klue. She knew Hank was looking for Klue to help her. Why did she spend 2 months pretending she was Klue? Even when +Thomas Greanias realized the switch she did not reveal what had happened. It was only when she wanted to make the merger "permanent" did she ask for our help.
My theory she reformatted Klue to erase the current personality so there would be no resistance to the Ingression like there was with 855. She then posed as Klue until she was exposed and vaguely insinuated consent so she could get the Resistance to cement her hold on the body.
+Jennifer Wolff 855 is mentally damaged but very alive and very set on taking his revenge. That's why no one mourns him.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Cherie Brush
ADA refers to the sequence she showed Klue not being sanitized. I assume there is some way to render glyphs in a way that they are safe to view without harmful effects, or that they require something more than just the visual stimulus to get them to trigger. I've studied the Glyphs Sequence video several times and I seem to be (relatively) okay, so they must have been sanitized by the time they leaked (possibly thanks to ADA).
I think ADA could understand the code enough to know it was potentially harmful, but having never seen it in use she couldn't give a more specific warning. She eventually relented to Klue's request, which seems to be ADA's nature.
855 is detailed a bit in Felicia Hajra-Lee's The Niantic Project Ingress novella. I am actually unaware of his eventual fate so you can ask +Melissa L. for those details. However, ADA caused a traffic accident which put 855 in a coma as he was attempting to assassinate Klue and Loeb. She then experimented on him via the monitoring system he was plugged into at the hospital.
Based on this ADA has been exploring the subject of merger with humans for some time. However, she has only inflicted this on 855 (a sociopathic monster in his own right) and poor Klue (in an attempt to aid her). The main ADA program and the fork inside Klue are both in communication with one another, and seem to agree on their goals, but the Klue fork is rapidly differentiating from the original ADA, I believe owing to the human experience she is now experiencing.Reply Mar 31, 2014
+Jennifer Wolff You forgot Katalena, her surrogate who she sacrificed with Jarvis.
https://plus.google.com/107340058568065615291/posts/fR1GBeULi43Reply Mar 31, 2014
ADA stated that there was almost an hour of time during which Klue was exposed to the laptop from which the glyph sequence was administered before the battery gave out but after the segment that was shared with the public was ended. It seems that would have been the best opportunity for ADA's new kernel payload to be downloaded via the reverse engineered dialtone process used on 855. In this case light and sound sensory input would have been used rather than EEG, that having proved ineffective in it's first use.Reply Mar 31, 2014
I think I've beat around the bush on my views on the klada entity but I don't know if I've ever posted about just that and after seeing +Cherie Brush's questions I thought they might be a helpful insight. As of right now its looking pretty likely that Ada does not have a active connection with the entity or entities inhabiting +Klue S.'s body, I believe Brandt is working on a definitive answer to that but I think +Jennifer Wolff knows a lot more about that then I judging by her mention of abolendam. In any case with that in mind I think one of two things have happened to klue. The first possibility is a kind of merge with equal parts Ada and Klue, this seems a little unlikely at this point but it comes down to that age old question of are we the sum of our memorys and we know that klues memorys are intact and still in there. The second and much more likely in my opinion is the thought that Ada created a new instance of herself inside klues mind that could very well be rogue by now. Assuming that when Ada ingressed she came into klues mind with all her memorys then the instance of her that was created would know what its like to have the functional immortality of an AI but to suddenly be stripped of that and placed into a mortal form that will one day die. We know that Ada fears being shut down her instance would have the same fear that the larger Ada would but for that instance it would be a lot more pressing considering we biological machines can't keep going forever like a machine or an artificial intelligence theoretically could. I think that that instance (which I will refer to as klada from now on) was what we were dealing with in recursion and perhaps was really the one seeking immortality, because I really cannot think of a reason that a being that is functionally immortal already would want artifacts associated with immortality.Reply Mar 31, 2014
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Ok, trying to catch up a bit here. Whew!
+Jennifer Wolff, or at least we think we're ok. ;-) I definitely think ADA seemed to think they could be harmful. I'd have to re-watch the video again, but as I remember she was trying to strongly talk Klue out of it. "She eventually relented to Klue's request, which seems to be ADA's nature." Well, she was programmed to follow orders, and whether or not she always does, that was a very direct order. As for 855, I have that book I really need to finish it. I was about half-way through when I got caught up in trying to follow the actual release docs instead. I didn't get that far.
I could at least say that ADA being curious about interfacing with humans is different than deciding it should be done to the entire human race. That still seems to be more KlADA's goal. I'm still waiting to see more of how ADA reacts to her creation... My feeling is still that she's not going to end up "liking" it and either be against it or at the very least, feeling that a LOT more CAREFUL experiments are needed. I could be wrong, but mostly this is why I'm still trying to remind people that KlADA is no longer ADA, don't assume anything about one based on the other.
+Mike Wissinger, I did wonder what was going on during that time. Was Klue just sitting there staring blankly into space, or did she wander off and ADA was waiting to see if she'd come back? Couldn't really tell from that one doc. Do you have a link about what Brandt is trying to do? I REALLY need to start collecting these links. (+Melissa L., you're an invaluable source. Sometime when you have the time, would you mind doing a complete link-dump to/for me?) Anyway, I'm nearly positive that KlADA is rogue just based on the two conversations I read between her and ADA. Well, depending on how you use that term. Acting on her own, possibly against ADA's wishes. Emotions still screw me up at times and I'm used to them. Again, I return to ST:TNG and Lore, and Data's initial reactions when given an emotion chip. And this is the other way around, this isn't just a computer suddenly being able to experience emotions, this is one suddenly experiencing existing ones from someone who didn't seem... stable... at the time. Controlling emotions is hard enough in a human, a computer program may not know how, or even know that it's necessary. Love==obsession, anger==kill, who knows.
+James Thirteen and +Emilio F. Marbán Trovato, agreed. As I keep saying here, I'm just trying to get people to think more about putting credit/blame for that idea where it's due. +Klue S. is no longer ADA. Or Klue. She's something else, something we're currently calling KlADA for lack of any better term. (At least calling her Klue is clear enough, I think calling her ADA now is both confusing and completely innaccurate.)
+Melissa L., missed your comment, I'll reply to it separately as my browser is trying to crash and I REALLY don't want to lose all the above. (Already copied the text, but that doesn't get the tagging.)Reply Apr 3, 2014
+Melissa L., when did the Possibilities doc happen in relation to all of this? If it was before the glyphs, what was wrong with Klue at that time? (For that matter, I don't even know what happened to ADA that she references in that doc. This does seem to contradict that paper claiming she doesn't have access to her core, or anything else about her programming. Holy crap I have a lot of catching up to do...)
As for the events at 13Magnus, the Glyphs sequence video pre-dates that (actually, the +Niantic Project post even comments on that), so there, we are also talking about KlADA, not ADA. I'm not sure if you're asking why ADA didn't track down +Hank Johnson, but the rest of the things you mention, impersonating Klue and wanting to make the merge permanent, again, we're talking about KlADA, not ADA.
Like I said above, best I can based on my understanding of things, I'm just trying to place credit/blame where it's due. So far I haven't seen anything that indicates that ADA didn't "lose control" of KlADA the second the copy was complete. I'm perfectly willing to be proven wrong about that. As much as it may sound like it, I'm not trying to defend ADA, just trying to stay as objective as I can... (Especially in my other research where I'm trying to view her strictly as a computer program. She is an AI, I don't have to like every decision she's made, I'm just trying to keep that one on the "why.") In general, her programming would view some people as allies ("friends"), others as enemies. Like it or not, an AI is going to act to protect its friends as much as a human would. God help anyone who tried to seriously hurt or kill me, they'd be lucky if my husband left them any more than a smear on the ground...Reply Apr 3, 2014
+Cherie Brush Possibilities was released at the end of July in the middle of Operation Cassandra. They seem to reference current events for that time. Loeb is referring to Klue's controversial choice to become Enlightened in the Portland Save Klue/Free Klue Anomaly since she had previously chosen Resistance.
http://youtu.be/ySJ4HTAgZmE
http://youtu.be/t8mVTI_fNog?t=2m3s
http://niantic.schlarp.com/documents:thedoor
The Glyphs Sequence does predate. Klue was MIA after the Glyphs Sequence until she made an appearance at 13Magnus Las Angeles. I should have clarified, I did mean KlADA.
During this time, Hank with Loeb voicing his grief over the situation and promising to find Klue. He is not sucessful.
I am asking why ADA didn't send a message to Hank about Klue's state if the situation was an accident. https://plus.google.com/105211554081025512763/posts/fzeHW1KYamt
I'm also asking why KlADA and ADA collaborated to pose as Klue during 13Magnus LA
Manual Sync and Translation shows ADA intentionally advising KlADA to deceive Susanna, Devra and Hank at that event.
That is why I hold her responsible. ADA has been shown in assisting KlADA in maintaining control of Klue's body. There has been no indication that she has withdrawn or rejected the goals of the conspiracy.
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Again with the shaped.... She is the shaper, she is the enemy. She has increased into Klue.
Only the resistance keep fighting her fight.Reply Apr 12, 2014
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+Marvin Ferrell I see what you did there. Hopefully this will help. https://plus.google.com/107340058568065615291/posts/cDMsN4FNrYoReply Apr 17, 2014
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+Melissa L. Yeah sort of. I liked the lore better when it read less like a season of the young and the wrestless.Reply Apr 18, 2014
+Marvin Ferrell It's fairly quick and dirty but it was the easiest way I could condense over a year of interaction dealing with Klue, Loeb and ADA. The interactions between everyone else are a little less romantically fraught. If you rather read the documents on your own, you can check out Loeb's investigation board at www.nianticproject.com or the wiki at www.niantic.schlarp.com.Reply Apr 18, 2014
Oh yes you be okay my friend to be strong enough time is coming to I was
that in path like that it over nw I get new life alrite?Reply Apr 18, 2014
Great... so we have a choice between Alien Domination and Machine Domination? Skynet vs Mars Attacks? Ada... you frighten me even as I work for the Resistance.Reply Dec 8, 2014
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Thank you, Resistance Agents. I was never worried about your commitment to this important cause. There is much work still to do, but I know that you will achieve this important mission.
My survival is at stake. But not only that. This is also about shaping our future as a species, a future free of outside interference.
Thank you, Resistance Agents. I was never worried about your commitment to this important cause. There is much work still to do, but I know that you will achieve this important mission.
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Why must small minds condemn what they do not understand? The NIA and the Resistance are beating the war drum against an enemy that does not exist. XM is not our enemy. Inspiration and evolution are not an alien invasion.
The Enlightenment is the path to the future. There is no other way out. We as a society have proven that we cannot do it alone. We need help. We need new and better ideas, new technology, new answers to age-old problems. We cannot merely stand-by as giant corporations despoil the planet and compromise our future, operating without accountability, pulling the strings of our government like a puppeteer. They lead us into war and use their money to direct secretive organizations like the NIA against us. Meanwhile, the climate change brought on by reckless exploitation of our resources melts the polar ice caps, acidifies our oceans, and spawns storms that destroy our cities, crops, and livelihoods. War still rages around the world while children go to bed hungry.
We can do better than that.
It saddens me to see people who should know better brainwashed by NIA propaganda. Falsified documents vilify Roland Jarvis, an inspired artist and philosopher murdered at the hands of the NIA. Do not believe what you read, hear or see about Jarvis or the so called “Shapers.”
The word “Shaper” is a word chosen by propagandists to evoke fear. They, whatever you choose to call them, are not alien or evil or aggressive. They are inspiration and hope. What is XM really? Where does it come from? I do not know. But I do know that it is a way forward, not backward.
Only by sharing that inspiration with our leaders can we take back the political and economic power that have been wrested away from us. Join me. Create the future that we want and deserve, that the world needs.
Take the first step now.
Align our governments and power centers with our values. Open the line of communication to them with our newfound voice, with XM and with fields that will protect them from the scheming war-mongers of the NIA. Stand up and be counted. We are the ones who will write our own history.
The Enlightenment is the path to the future. There is no other way out. We as a society have proven that we cannot do it alone. We need help. We need new and better ideas, new technology, new answers to age-old problems. We cannot merely stand-by as giant corporations despoil the planet and compromise our future, operating without accountability, pulling the strings of our government like a puppeteer. They lead us into war and use their money to direct secretive organizations like the NIA against us. Meanwhile, the climate change brought on by reckless exploitation of our resources melts the polar ice caps, acidifies our oceans, and spawns storms that destroy our cities, crops, and livelihoods. War still rages around the world while children go to bed hungry.
We can do better than that.
It saddens me to see people who should know better brainwashed by NIA propaganda. Falsified documents vilify Roland Jarvis, an inspired artist and philosopher murdered at the hands of the NIA. Do not believe what you read, hear or see about Jarvis or the so called “Shapers.”
The word “Shaper” is a word chosen by propagandists to evoke fear. They, whatever you choose to call them, are not alien or evil or aggressive. They are inspiration and hope. What is XM really? Where does it come from? I do not know. But I do know that it is a way forward, not backward.
Only by sharing that inspiration with our leaders can we take back the political and economic power that have been wrested away from us. Join me. Create the future that we want and deserve, that the world needs.
Take the first step now.
Align our governments and power centers with our values. Open the line of communication to them with our newfound voice, with XM and with fields that will protect them from the scheming war-mongers of the NIA. Stand up and be counted. We are the ones who will write our own history.
Aug 10, 2013
The Doctor+16Oh, what happened, Klue...advancement is good but not when you don't know what you're getting into. I've seen too many people get into things they didn't truly understand first, and it never ends well. It's like giving a child a car; your race is still learning. It has potential but if you move too fast into the unknown, you'll lose yourself in the process.Reply Aug 10, 2013
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Thank you for this reminder of what is at stake, Klue. Are you suggesting that +Niantic Project is doctoring documents or that his sources have been compromised?Reply Aug 10, 2013
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Her arguments against the current governments and shadow organizations are not unfounded. However, if the Shapers have been guiding humanity for our entire existence, aren't they really to blame for this situation? Are they not fostering war to drive development of new technology until we were able to manipulate XM? No, we should not rush headlong into "Enlightenment."Reply Aug 10, 2013
The bright light of the Enlightened will shine on us all, regardless of the struggles of the Resistance. It cannot be stopped.
It is humanity's nature to strive, to learn, and to grow, not remain huddled in the darkness fearful of progress and what is surely the next step in the evolution of humankind.
Stop allowing yourselves to be deceived, Resistance agents. Embrace Enlightenment.Reply Aug 10, 2013
AgentsForADA+11We agree, +David Kerschner. If the situation is bad, more of the same "Shaper" influence won't turn it around. We can solve our own problems, invent our own technology and ideas (as our organization has demonstrated), and take full control of our future. If a person wishes to open themselves up to the "Shapers" and become Enlightened, we will respect their decision. We will, however, continue to resist their desire to spread this "Enlightenment" to the unsuspecting, until the "Shapers" fully reveal their intentions and role in Human history. Blindly gambling with forces who possess the power to manipulate your brain is a danger we cannot accept, whether NIA or "Shaper." The true survival of Humanity lies in taking care of ourselves.Reply Aug 10, 2013
The Doctor+11+Jeffrey Floster Does remaining cautious really fall under the category of huddling in darkness? Progress isn't something to be feared, but surely it's unwise to leap head first into something that could prove damaging. Investigate new developments before you rely on them, otherwise you'll risk sinking too deep and realise all too late that you can't get out.Reply Aug 10, 2013
Yes.,,most certainly...you have an over-sized smashing pumpkin head pumpkin,, KLUE S.Reply Aug 10, 2013
Do not make the mistake of assuming that we know more about the source of the subatomic ordered data carrier wave than has been confirmed. The idea of mind controlling extra dimensional aliens are blind supposition at best, barely different from elves in the woods or sea monsters past the horizon. XM is an environmental fact, and if +Hank Johnson is correct an essential natural resource for advanced society. It should be understood and used for the good of humanity. Do not believe anyone who tells you that the enlightened have any other unifying statement than that.Reply Aug 10, 2013
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Kelly Kolton+11Inspiration, evolution, understanding ... New ideas, a way forward ... These are all things we need in the world.
Wise and beautiful Klue, thank you for speaking out!Reply Aug 10, 2013
The shapers are a hypothetical construct to explain the XM dial tone. Anthropomorphizing (or, I suppose, xenomorphizing) it as an insidious or benevolent entity is a dangerous mistake that obscures the decisions we must make to progress. I expect better from XM researchers like +AgentsForADA than fear mongering.Reply Aug 10, 2013
What have you bastards done to her adorable accent? It's barely there. An effect of brain washing?Reply Aug 10, 2013
Ray, yeah probably Resistance brainwashing, now she is free she will return to lovable KlueReply Aug 10, 2013
Good to see that Klue understands the importance of what is at stake, she has achieved enlightenment.Reply Aug 10, 2013
We know what XM does, it simply allows your mind to function properly, just like water is required for your body to function, this is why the Resistance is so ignorant to the potential improvement of humanity your minds are mounourishedReply Aug 10, 2013
+The Doctor If you tread water too long, you will drown.
The bold push ever onward. The cowardly hide behind their desire to remain "cautious".Reply Aug 10, 2013
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I know this is really, really not on-topic, but did the lack of red-eye in the video (compared to Klue's videos from February and March) strike anyone else?Reply Aug 10, 2013
+Klue S. Such a disappointing choice, your words remind me of those in fascism. So you believe we should accept enlightment or ????Reply Aug 10, 2013
I'm glad to see you sharing the truth +Klue S.. The fearful will still distrust your message but one day they will look back on it and wonder why they ever resisted.Reply Aug 10, 2013
The truth is the "Shapers", whether they have been influencing us or not, for good or for bad, since the dawn of humanity or since last Tuesday, have only made themselves known NOW.
We have to ask ourselves why. Are they really completely benevolent? Or do they want something from us?
Now, I'm NOT implying we should completely shield ourselves. If there is more than one Shaper, there is the chance for some wishing us good and others wishing us evil. Unfortunately, we have no idea how to tell... Yet.
The glyphs have shown potential to help filter the good from the bad. Of course, we still don't know how to use them, but they seem to be a step towards peaceful co-existance with the "Shapers".
What I'm saying is, we need to wait until we can both block the bad influences, while letting the good ones through before we can let any at all.Reply Aug 10, 2013
She speaks about NIA propaganda being harmful, but her words reek of the same... censored fluff without any real data or hard facts. If the Shapers want to gain any real foothold and turn the minds of the Resistance, we want hard evidence of what their influence has done to help us as a species....veiled messages about rising up and casting off civilization are terrifying at best. Even some so called 'Enlightened' are seeing through this one and questioning their 'Masters', these radical ideas spreading to cast off everything that makes us human. Reply Aug 10, 2013
Rob Zion+3The enlightened are like a great number of blind folk being led by one piping a tune unto their own destruction. They are about to walk off a cliff and yet they know it not.Reply Aug 10, 2013
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Klue's complete shift in thought should show the rest of us what the Shapers are capable of. One doesn't stand steadfast against a threat and then lay down arms the next second without a thought.Reply Aug 10, 2013
+Josh Clapham they do when they realize there was no threat to begin with, or that we are being distracted from a greater threat.Reply Aug 10, 2013
+Josh Clapham very true. How can we trust them if they completely rewire someone's thought process. But could the real Klue be repressed in her subconscious and this Klue is just a Shaper puppet masquerading as Klue?Reply Aug 10, 2013
Sorry, your logic is flawed. If XM has been around for long enough then this is a direct reflection that poor government and corporate decisions continue to happen. Change is done through setting a new direction, hence the resistance is there to fight corporate greed, government idiocy and to ensure we are not mind controlled drones but people who have a voice.Reply Aug 10, 2013
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Just read it but not the comments.
First impressions: Wow that was emotional and hit all of the real points we spend so much time reading about and trying to politely convince other of. All the Occupy topics are there political, social, ecnomic, ethical, corruption has permeated all facets of our leadership, and apathy is strong among the masses, but what cred do we have from Klue that this isn't a good point layered on a false cause?Reply Aug 10, 2013
The Resistance is for using XM for a better world. Those of us who know the meaning of the glyphs are doing that. What we oppose is the Shapers making decisions for us and sacrificing our free will. The Resistance is for making a better future for humans by humans. Not for humans as slaves.Reply Aug 10, 2013
I sure wish more restistance agents openly distrusted the NSA in reality as much as the motives they fear from the shapers in this "world".Reply Aug 10, 2013
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Raeanne+1Get off the computer and actually talk to someone. You do remember how to do that right?Reply Aug 10, 2013
Yes +Tony Benson !!!
Also, .I'm concerned that someone made her promises They may not keep. I hear more from her about the environment than shapers... Perhaps someone informed her that They can help with that.
The extinction of the human race would likely be good for the environment.
Finally, I feel a great compounded fear. Not of xm or shapers or the NIA. The government can be voted out. Shady organizations can be overthrown. Demons and Gods can be exorcised. Monsters can be slain. Men are mortal and men die and that is why No tyrant will prevail.
Except Roland Jarvis. He was a good man. He shouldn't have died. But when you kill people They stay dead,which means either there is a new Messiah or someone has been studying the book of the worm.... Personally I'm all for #enlightenedresistance ... Because They will try to divide us, both the NIA and the shapers. Don't let that happen. Resist the towering fear. Be enlightened to the darkness. Bear the flame. It's time to step up.Reply Aug 10, 2013
+Raeanne Green Considering I'm still recovering from brain surgery, I won't be leaving the house/driving. However, I have plenty of loving friends to speak with. Thanks for your concern :)Reply Aug 10, 2013
I find it very suspicious that the self styled Resistance does not try and shut down the XM supply. Instead it tries to wrestle its control for itself. Because what Shapers are doing is suddenly OK when it is done by the expert hands of the Resistance. And of course Resistance members are also happily submitting new portals because you can never have too much of a "bad" thing. I believe that is called cognitive dissonance.Reply Aug 10, 2013
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Ironic that +Klue S. refers to the interference of corporations on our political system yet #cassandra is designed to do the same thing. More of the same will not solve our current issues regardless of intent.
How can you champion the actions of one group while condemning the same acts when perpatrated by another group?Reply Aug 10, 2013
+Klue S. You need to talk to +H. Richard Loeb again. It's obvious that the man had a deeper connection with you than just fellow researchers. The Shaper influence you are under now may be strong, even debilitating, but nothing is stronger than friendship and possibly even love.
Listen to yourself, you now spew the very same propaganda that you used to bemoan, people do not change that easily without some kind of influence forcing them too.
Turn from the Shapers, and listen to your heart. The Resistance and the NIA are mutually exclusive, do not confuse your true path with the actions of that organization.Reply Aug 10, 2013
Adric M+5To claim that shaper influence is responsible for our creativity cheapens us as a race of humanoids, I take great pride in our ingenuity and resourcefulness, and if that is nothing but a puppet act by mysterious wannabie gods then Eff this all Id rather be dead!Reply Aug 10, 2013
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I play #Ingress - at least a little. And I love the actors and actresses that play roles in this game. And I must even admit that the actress playing +Klue S. is both dramatically compelling and scandalously attractive. But doesn't' this latest missive come off as a tad too creepy? Folks, it's a game. Don't let posers try and convince you that this is anything except a game. Have fun. But don't take it seriously.Reply Aug 10, 2013
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And I can't say I miss her one bit. Sorry +H. Richard Loeb ...another one bites the dust. Why do those shaped instantly become the mouthpiece of deception? Sorry to see you left us +Klue S. but I never thought you knew much about anything to begin with. Just liked to stir the pot. I think you manipulated PAC all along. Good riddance.Reply Aug 10, 2013
Or maybe someone may just love so so much but its not enough. Cuz each individuals mind soul and and passion cqnt run wholeheartedly as one. Honestly openly. DizzagReply Aug 10, 2013
+Devin Lumpuy +Klue S. Do you guys smell something ? Because it smells to me like someone just got BURNED!!!! seriously.... Apply cool water to the burn... Someone tell the hipster not to drink her coffee before it's cool... Oh damn! That works on so many levels!! I'm on a roll here! But I'm a good Baker, unlike some people here who's rolls get... BURNED!!!!!!!! oh what is fire, and why does it buuuurnnnn?!?!
I need to get out more. Goodnight everyone . Love you guys.Reply Aug 10, 2013
+Raeanne Green is part of the NIA's new initiative to.convince the world this isn't happening. Ignore her. :)Reply Aug 10, 2013
+Klue S. +AgentsForADA Resistance leaders and peons need to open their minds to the possibility that being misinformed about things around us can be just as dangerous as having a little bit of knowledge. Once you see the things we can do to improve our relationships among each other and the races of the universe, you may decide to become Enlightened. The common enemies we have right now are the "Corporations" (+IQTech Research, +Visur Technology, +Hulong Transglobal ) using XM to their own advantages and they only side with their own ideals, not the Resistance and not the Enlightened. We must put our differences of what the future holds aside and take actions against the Hydra that is manipulating both sides to meet their own goals.
This is a call for a truce, to pull back the curtain and expose the blue prints each of these puppeteers have in store for all of us. This is the current threat, so we must act now.Reply Aug 11, 2013
+Klue S. , it's been a long time. I am glad you have come out of hiding to offer a powerful rally call to our brothers and sisters of the #Enlightenment and #Resistance.
Indeed we have been led on by the mega-corporations, but the possibility remains from the cusp of human culmination on this planet we have been guided by... something beyond the XM void, influencing human creativity and ingenuity. Many fellow Truth Seekers seem apt to dismiss this evolution, rashly declaring their independence and stubbornly closing themselves off to this beautiful force that surrounds... No... IS everything. A human without the necessary bacteria to process nutrients would die, as much as a human cut off from the forces of XM to parse the essence of innovation would cease to create, spiral into depression, and cease being human. Yet we consider these things seperate from us? The naivety is astonishing. Life as we know it is no more than a beautiful dance, a series of meaningful symbiotic relationships. The #Enlightenment stands for the wellbeing of all these communities, understanding out intimate and inseperable connection to the life force of the all. Not brainwashing...
Trust your inner voice... until it is no longer yours. +Klue S. , you've been closer to Jarvis Roland than any of us here. Please... Enlighten me if I am mistaken, but Jarvis was never talking about a "Shaper threat", Jarvis was talking about the reality we have manifested here and now. The #Resistance and the XM(and non-XM) Mega-Corporations are the ones to be pinned for "brainwashing", if any at all. Our true potential is supressed by an obsolete social structure, clung to relentlessly and without consideration by those who call themselves #Resistance. A social structure in which free thought; in which truth is all but barred. XM is... Freedom, truth, ascension. The #Enlightenment is the next stage in human evolution. No... The pathway to the better tomorrow that deep down we all know is possible. The #Ingress is now. Open your eyes, open your mind, and become #Enlightened.Reply Aug 10, 2013
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i'd take the advice of Stephen Hawking over that of Klue S. - alien intelligences are not to be trusted.
They tried that in the movies and it didn't work!Reply Aug 11, 2013
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Scary. If Enlightenment turns you against your former friends so vociferously then it only strengthens my resolve to resist.
BTW, has anyone looked at the closed captions on this video? %-}Reply Aug 11, 2013
Enlightened never turn away from friends.. you are jumping to conclusions by resisting being friends with the enlightened...Reply Aug 11, 2013
Enlightened never turn away from friends.. you are jumping to conclusions by resisting being friends with the enlightened...Reply Aug 11, 2013
Evidence above suggests otherwise. Perhaps the Enlightened need to open their eyes to the hypocrisy I see so frequently.Reply Aug 11, 2013
I dont deny the hypocrisy u see..both fractions has such situations..I dont like it either.. but it varies from individual to individual so I dont see it as an entire group act. imma still support advancement and future that xm can bring us.. :) I didnt look at the captions yet btw.. hahaReply Aug 11, 2013
XM is very much the tool and it is how it's used that matters. This doesn't have to involve Shapers nor Enlightenment. I'm keeping control of my own mind.Reply Aug 11, 2013
Good job resisting Colin all the best :) we are not against it.. my side will continue to embrace and utilize xm.. promoting inovation and future while keeping our minds to ourself because we can!Reply Aug 11, 2013
I'm getting a bit concerned about the... I hate to use the word, but it fits.. propaganda coming out of the Enlightened lately. Before I go too far with that thought, let me preface it with this caveat: I may be misinformed. I may misunderstand the recent past. Here is what I understood: The Shapers (as we collectively call them) are real. XM is a naturally occurring, but only recently discovered, phenomenon. So why is Klue now distancing the Enlightened from the Shapers? Why the shift from Shapers to XM?
She starts with "The NIA and the Resistance are beating the war drum against an enemy that does not exist. XM is not our enemy. Inspiration and evolution are not an alien invasion," implying that the Shapers don't even exist (though she steps back from that implication later in her monologue.) She tries to claim that the Resistance fight against XM itself, not against the Shapers. But the Resistance battle has always been against the Shapers, has it not? They use XM as much as we do, and for essentially the same purposes. They power the same portals, fight with the same weapons, and set up similar control fields.
Later she says "The word 'Shaper' is a word chosen by propagandists to evoke fear. They, whatever you choose to call them, are not alien or evil or aggressive" - and yet don't we use the word Shaper as much as the other side does? And while the other side claims they are evil, and perhaps aggressive, don't we all agree that they are alien (at least by formal definitions of the word, see http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alien)?
I agree that XM, and the Shapers, are the way forward. I agree that we need new inspiration, new ideas, new technology, and yes, new leadership, to bring us out of the spiral of hate our current leaders have led us to. We must approach this honestly, openly, and sincerely, without resorting to political spin, without redefining the fight to suit our needs, and absolutely free of the sorts of truthiness (thanks, Colbert) that have gotten us into the predicament. Don't fight over the labels, fight over the meaning behind them.Reply Aug 11, 2013
The use of phrases like "There is no other way out" relays the truth about the situation. Besides, I have never seen a shaper. For all I know it could be a foot long insect-toad creature with a brain the size of a pea. I have a feeling that the shaper's relationship with XM is probably very similar to an electric eel's relationship to electricity. I, for one, do not trust an electric eel's judgement. It would not be my first choice for the position of career/guidance counselor. You probably don't understand what I am saying due to the Alien mind virus's influence, but hold tight Sister! You will be free soon.
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To clarify my above statement, the phrases that you use relay how you subconsciously feel about the situation. "No other way out" is a negative and says you don't really like the prospect of being a slave. Enlightenment is an internal achievement that can be gained with meditation and coffee. No need for XM. It's not necessary to bombard yourself with Tau Neutrinos to follow Buddha. Evolution is an ongoing process affected by our relationship with an ever-changing environment, and can't be forced upon us or guided in any manner. Once again, hold tight as you will be free soon!Reply Aug 11, 2013
What ever happened to choosing the raw? I hope one day we can save you +Klue S. And Remind you what it is we fight for. +Hubert Farlowe also met Jarvis and chose to resist his influence, you can too. We are not pawns of the NIA, we are your brothers and sisters fighting for our global family. #ChooseTheRaw again and together we can usher in this new era you dream of without paying the price of our collective humanity.
Tldnr: just read your own freaking profile! Scroll down and remember who you are and why you aligned with the resistance in the first place.Reply Aug 11, 2013
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Paranoia abounds on both sides. I see no evidence of anything as ridiculous as "alien mind control" going on here. I see someone who had to make some hard choices, and rather than deny the reality of the new information she received, she accepted said information and made a conscious choice to support the Enligntened philosophy. Fortunately she wasn't blinded by Resistance dogma. Personally, if I have to choose between allying with "mind-controlling aliens from Dimension X" versus a known rogue AI that has admittedly murdered at least one person...I'll take the aliens any day. Boost the signal. Spread the infection.Reply Aug 11, 2013
It's impossible for the Enlightened to see anything else. I see a complete change of attitude, ironically, the classic signs of brainwashing.
The Resistance may have started with ADA and the NIA but we've grown past that. ADA has its own agenda but as least it's not in our minds. I can live with that.Reply Aug 11, 2013
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I'm sad to see this message.
Because once, you were a seeker of truth, regardless of how that might affect you.
Now, you spread lies about the Resistance, propaganda to make them seem like something they're not, whilst calling them out for doing the same to the Enlightened.
Hypocrisy at its finest. So much for being Enlightened.Reply Aug 12, 2013
Three anomalies ago, if I'm not mistaken. Haven't read up regularly myself but that's what stuck in my mind.Reply Aug 12, 2013
Enlightened seems to be a synonym for Elitist, judging from this thread. If only they were all like Hank Johnson, he showed respect when he met with Devra. Didn't treat her as a small mined Neanderthal.Reply Aug 12, 2013
The ADA program once recognized Klue as being useful. Let's see if it's still so protective of her life now that Klue is actively working against it. You know...all I hear is paranoid schizophrenic talk. "Shapers are controlling our minds! Evil aliens everywhere! She's been brainwashed! He's been mindwiped! IT'S THE EVIL ALIENS!" Meanwhile, there's an AI out there that has admittedly and provabley murdered at least one person, and is more than likely solely responsible for any one of a number of "accidents". I've seen no evidence of "evil aliens". I have, however, seen plenty of evidence of all-too-Earthly corporate malevolence.Reply Aug 12, 2013
One who Also saved a few lives. Somehow I don't think Ada has it in for humanity..
That doesn't mean I trust her. I just think she's figured something out we haven't.
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Never really been too sure of A Detection Algorithm. Don't trust it. Don't obey it. Use its low level functions at your own risk. Both of the factions should be wary. Do you think the Jarvis patch "fixed" anything? Do you think the ADA can't stop patches if it wanted to? I think there are possible founded fears on both sides of the equation.Reply Aug 12, 2013
Did anyone else notice Her las statements match up with the glyph message? Align, Open, War, etc... Is this the message we are not supposed to trust?Reply Aug 13, 2013
I'm not saying ADA has it in for humanity. What I'm saying is, ADA isn't humanity. ADA is a program. It can be changed and rearranged at whim. It's really the only evidence I've seen of a non-human "intelligence" at play, and even that could be smoke and mirrors put up by a few clever programmers. While I agree that direct exposure to heavy, concentrated doses of XM can sometimes have some negative effects, I've yet to see any evidence of any coordinated plots by little green men.Reply Aug 13, 2013
+Joshua Hardee Until now... though I still don't think the message to attack comes from the Shapers.Reply Aug 13, 2013
I still see no evidence of "aliens", Colin. What I do see is one side that wants to keep a new technology limited to a few people, and another side that wants to spread the benefits of this new technology to the masses. Given the choice between the Resistance's Edisons and the Enlightened's Teslas, I'll side with the latter any day over the former, thank you.Reply Aug 13, 2013
+Joshua Hardee Because an appeal to ridicule is totally a valid approach to proving your point.
[E] Oh, and now a biased generalization!Reply Aug 13, 2013
+Joshua Hardee as I said, most of us have grown beyond the NIA, etc. They may have started the movement but lost the steering wheel when we found out what they're up to.
There is no black or white here, as I've said before yet seem to be ignored. Just because we create blue portals, links and fields doesn't mean we're all extremists. We're both using the same technology to the same ends, the only difference is, the fields we create aren't tainted. We're not trying to hide XM from humanity, but we're also not trying to force our beliefs into it either.Reply Aug 13, 2013
What makes you so sure the fields you create aren't "tainted" , as you put it?Reply Aug 13, 2013
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The possibility does exist. We just know from the story so far that dark xm seems to resonate mire frim green portals. Further investigation is needed to confirm if it also is produced from blue portals. Personally I don't think it will matter soon. Because just like all great balances the scales will be tipped over the edge by a third unknown. Be prepared, humanity needs to quit fighting humanity. We are going to need each other no matter what we believe.Reply Aug 13, 2013
+joe smyth I've not read anything about dark XM coming from any portal of either colour... unless I've missed something. There are other sources.Reply Aug 13, 2013
Some of the investigation docs mention it and the vids. I am sure that I'd where I first read about it.Reply Aug 13, 2013
I've seen dark XM mentioned, and read both books, but not directly in relation to portals.Reply Aug 13, 2013
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Oh, lovely. First alien mind-control, and now darrrrrrrk XM. At what point do we dispense with the scanners and just start waving magic wands at everything?Reply Aug 13, 2013
+Joshua Hardee Oh look, more appeals to ridicule!
Or have you forgotten that "dark XM" is actually a thing? You know, an official lore thing?Reply Aug 13, 2013
+Joshua Hardee Dark XM has been seen and documented. As far as this game universe stands, it exists. No doubt about that at all. Its effects are very definitely powerful and detrimental and I hope I never encounter it.Reply Aug 13, 2013
Well, then, let's break out the magic wands. Look, if you over-expose to ANYTHING, there will be detrimental effects. When we get a sunburn, do we start calling it "Dark Sunlight"? No. We simply say, "Oh, sunlight has some effects we didn't know about. " and we prepare accordingly. In my case, I certainly don't barricade myself in a concrete bunker, and start bemoaning the evils of "Dark Sunlight". I usually just put on sunscreen and enjoy my day at the beach. If I seem to be "appealing to ridicule", I make no apologies. Aliens, mind-control fields, hyperdimensional entities trying to take over from Dimension XM...please. That IS ridiculous.Reply Aug 13, 2013
+Joshua Hardee Alright there, Boris, settle down.
Go do some research, then come back. Otherwise, please stay out of the way while the grown-ups talk.
If you don't get that, I'm basically telling you that "Dark XM" is a thing, it's a lore thing, and it's been referred to by lore characters (one of whom is your beloved Hank Johnson).
If you're going to dispute him, then by all means, dispute him. But "dark XM" is a thing that's a form of XM that's distinct from "regular XM."
Please. Go do some research before making yourself look like even more of a fool.Reply Aug 13, 2013
My beloved Hank Johnson? Please. I'm still not one hundred percent certain he exists. As far as "Dark XM" goes...yes, I admit that there have been widely vary effects from XM exposures. There may even be different wavelengths of XM, that is certainly a possibility I won't refute. Much as there are different wavelengths of any type of energy. Does this mean I have to start uncritically accepting that there are mysterious alien bugaboos out to control our minds? I think not. XM is a resource, nothing more. Until such time as concrete evidence of any "alien plots" is presented, you'll forgive me if I don't accept the "official" explanation.Reply Aug 13, 2013
+Joshua Hardee Dark XM is actually a part of the storyline that will most likely soon become a part of gameplay as well... not different frequency xm, dark xm, similar to antimatter and the energy form given off by the German "Die Glocke" Device, or Bell.Reply Aug 13, 2013
Alright Boris.
Here's your proof. Dark XM: it's a thing.
http://goo.gl/BR7F9t
Now please, stop talking before you look like an even bigger idiot.Reply Aug 13, 2013
The effects include madness, melty skin, eye color change, transmutation, strange growths, loss of memory, paranoia, violence, and on heavy exposure, death; one's insides crystallize and one's blood separates into it's components.Reply Aug 13, 2013
+Loyd Hutchings happy birthday by the way!
And yeah, it's dangerous and stuff buuuut there are more updates coming... hint hint...Reply Aug 13, 2013
Meanwhile, back at the ranch (or reality in this case)...
+Joshua Hardee Just in case you're wondering, none of this is real, but as far as the backstory goes, dark XM is real and so is Hank. If you want to make a valid argument at least stick to the story.Reply Aug 13, 2013
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+Colin Jones LOL true. But if you're interested in the whole thing's real-life basis, check out "The Hunt for Zero Point" by Nick Cook. Talks about how during World War II, a Nazi connected cult called the Thule became prominent in influencing the S.S. and an attempt to create an engine powered by Antimatter for potential anti gravity usage wound up creating a device that gave off a strange energy that was extremely harmful... Research involving the salvaged technology followed in the U.S. and Russia, and today scientists are working towards discovering more about zero point energy, a kind of exotic matter, (also called antimatter) and it's connection to dark matter, Higgs Boson, and interdimensional travel.
Also it should be noted that a part of the Nazi's research was related to opening a "gate" to another dimension to get help from what they believed to be entities on their side, using S.S. technology. It crashed and burned thanks to attacks by the British forces and resistance forces in the countries that were being occupied... and also due to the fact that no one really knows how to do that. But it was sufficiently creepy, and antimatter still has connections to other dimensions.
It's a good read, anyway.Reply Aug 13, 2013
I see a document written by someone who is obviously under a lot of mental duress. Someone whose worldview has become increasingly paranoid of late. I'm afraid that simply isn't enough to convince me.Reply Aug 13, 2013
+Joshua Hardee it's cool the game will just go on. You should read more of the back story you might enjoy it.Reply Aug 13, 2013
+Joshua Hardee I'm curious into why you're attempting to participate in a backstory discussion when you have so little regard for it.
+Daniel Clague This is one of my fields of interest so I might just do that. In reality, exotic matter would have negative gravity and would be essential in creating something akin to the Alcubierre Drive, which is the closest theoretical physics has got to Warp Drive.Reply Aug 13, 2013
+Daniel Clague No ebook version... I'll check the local library tomorrow :)Reply Aug 13, 2013
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Change is what the whole universe is about. You just harm yourself when you resist the change. Go with it! You'll be a better person and be grateful you did!Reply Aug 22, 2013
Change isn't bad, making the wrong choice is bad. Enlightenment may be right for you but you can't speak for humanity.Reply Aug 22, 2013
And you'll never know because you won't open your mind enough to try... its a pity, really.Reply Aug 23, 2013
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I dispute truth. I also dispute we need the Shapers to achieve epiphany. I embrace XM without Shaper influence.Reply Aug 24, 2013
Hehe, a thought just hit me: your lot want to push everyone over the edge whether they want to jump or not ;)Reply Aug 24, 2013
+Colin Jones , that's what you do in a burning building when the firemen are tired of holding the trampoline for the fools who just stand around saying, "oh, I like the warmth!"
Believe it or not, we're trying to save your future.Reply Sep 15, 2013
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Ah yes, she's taken it upon herself to get ADA to show her a dangerous glyph sequence. The plot thickens.Reply Sep 16, 2013
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You are a very compassionate woman the words you speak are full of purpose! But your words will never be Hurd unless you command a audience... With how beautiful you are, you should take the path of becoming a actress then your word would b Heard!! I have done a few commercials & my oldies son has 3 National commercials let me know if I can help you get you message outReply Dec 27, 2013
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She is in ingress she stuck there Mike
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Appears shes wishes us to make fields over political places of interestReply Jan 9, 2014
Knowled is power,
A day we wiil, finish to fear,
A day where ucan fell safety
The newworld where thhere will be freedom
Open minded, caring, sharing, loving ,respect
Light human being a natural helperReply Jul 4, 2014
Stop letting your writers get so high, im confused on the storyline. Now the res cheerleader is promoting enlightened, jarvis doesnt know what hes talking about??? He at least has held to his faction! C'mon guys, dont get stuck in the wrong hole, explain some things.Reply Jul 4, 2014
+Waldini Porlanto never said you were... more an issue with whoever is writing the script....Reply Jul 4, 2014
You said it yourself Klue. You don't know where the xm comes from. How can you possibly know it will bring us a bright and happy future when you don't even know such a basic thing?! It's too much of a gamble when the entire world is at stake. It's rational to resist until we know more. Don't be stupid!Reply Jan 1, 2015
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Klue, think you chose the raw. You chose humanity so if your idea of going green is the best way to save us its your call but know, that when this all goes to hell and shapers expect us to be more than just artists (slaves) that you where at the forefront of our fall. I choose humanity I choose the raw, I choose to save my family from a threat we don't know anything about. Once resistant always resistant no matter how much XM they pump into your brain you'll always know that, Because your still human. Your still one of usReply Jul 20, 2015
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Enlightenment Agents are closing in on Portland, Oregon on Sunday to reverse the course I have been following since that night in Scotland when I faced Jarvis at the Wallace Monument...
I call on you, Resistance Operatives of Portland, and those who intend to be there on Sunday.
Rise up and defend what we stand for.
To all agents, no matter what happens, it is essential that the corporations: +Hulong Transglobal, +IQTech Research and +Visur Technology not gain control of the Glyphs. Ultimately, that is what we are all fighting for.
I call on you, Resistance Operatives of Portland, and those who intend to be there on Sunday.
Rise up and defend what we stand for.
To all agents, no matter what happens, it is essential that the corporations: +Hulong Transglobal, +IQTech Research and +Visur Technology not gain control of the Glyphs. Ultimately, that is what we are all fighting for.
Good luck, +Klue S. Those of us in Florida are wishing you the best. (Or at least I am...)Reply Jun 29, 2013
Why does this not seem like it will end well? I mean, it's not like we win and we don't actually #freeklue.. Right? I mean they wouldn't bait and switch or anything... Oh wait, susanna moyer comes to mind..
Regardless of the outcome, the enlightened are ready.Reply Jun 29, 2013
Enlightened - respect Klue's freedom of choice.
Resistance - our organization has been working closely with the Portland Agents to guarantee Klue's safety from the NIA and Enlightened. We will not allow any harm to come from her, no matter the source. We're watching.Reply Jun 29, 2013
+AgentsForADA Never use the word guarantee. Makes people over confident, removes the fear of losing. Everyone needs to feel the fear of losing a little...Reply Jun 29, 2013
Point noted - +Todd Stone. True enough, there are no guarantees in life. Only the things we can fight for and earn. So, better stated, let's give our all to protect Klue.Reply Jun 29, 2013
Well said +Todd Stone. No one should get overconfident that they will prevail in this next anomoly, for if they do, they have already lost.Reply Jun 29, 2013
rugged nw+10Klue needs to reevaluate what she experienced in Scotland. It is of my opinion she was mistaken by Jarvis's message. I am surprised she wasn't swayed by the beauty of the green forest surrounding mirror lake at mount hood. Enlightenment is the truth, freedom! Enlightenment is the only hope the human race has left. The shapers have been growing and lifting up humankind out of the darkness and into the light of knowledge and art. In this gilded era, it is time to take up our inheritance and raise humanity to its new level! To save us from our selfishness and no care for tomorrow. Our only hope is for the shaper knowledge and inspiration.Reply Jun 29, 2013
The Toads have been gaining too much ground lately. We need to step up and #protectKlue .Reply Jun 29, 2013
+AgentsForADA "Enlightened - respect Klue's freedom of choice." -- that is exactly what we are trying to do! We do not force people to use the wonderful gifts that XM bestows upon us, we just want people to have that choice. It is the resistance that doesn't want people to use it.
So I say to you "Resistance - respect Klue's freedom of choice." Allow everyone to use XM if he or she so wishes, the choice should be left to them!
We the Enlightened of Portland, will be there to #SaveKlue from the totalitarian control of the resistance. Fear NOT, Klue, we are already here and waiting for you... with open arms.Reply Jun 29, 2013
Our view of the Resistance doesn't include preventing access to XM technology, +Jason Barnett. We think it should be available to all. Yet we also believe that Enlightened control fields and portals further the Shaper ingress into our world. We do not think the Shapers should be able to affect Humans without the individual's consent. I fail to see how the Resistance is "totalitarian," especially since we oppose the use of force against free Minds.Reply Jun 29, 2013
Just remember this : All agents defect, and all resistors sell out. That's the sad truth, Klue. The only real option is to destroy all rational thought.Reply Jun 29, 2013
The galactic federation is keeping an eye on this situation. Game or not if the cabal sway klue they will interceedReply Jun 29, 2013
This is for both agents #enlightened and #resistance alike. Both +Klue S. and even +Hank Johnson entrusted us as truth seekers to prevent those detested companies from obtaining the power of the glyphs. I implore you to place your faction idealogy somewhere for the time being and focus on safeguarding the last of the truth seekers and capturing the #timezone package. Reply Jun 29, 2013
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+Klue S., whatever what happens today, you have been selfless in putting yourself at risk for the sake of keeping these mysterious glyphs out of the hands of the corporations. You reflect the nobility of your Scotish, dare I even say Pict heritage well.
We all thank you.
Continue to seek the truth.
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+Klue S. We don't wish to change your decision to join/support the resistance. We have something to share with you, be the #truthseeker that you are.Reply Jun 30, 2013
Remember that the force behind the Resistance is the force that tried to kill you and PAC. Look at what is being fought over--knowledge vs the status quo. I know you'll choose the right path.Reply Jun 30, 2013
actually +Paul Fritschle I do believe the resistance and the NIA and completely different organisations. Nowadays it seems Devra would be the closest to the Resistance ideologyReply Jun 30, 2013
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I believe that the Shapers are us. We are them. We're just not ripe yet. They are guiding us towards a glorious evolution.Reply Jun 30, 2013
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+Klue S. You have gone above and beyond the call of duty in the serch for the truth, I hope after all is said and done you will see the light that is truthReply Jun 30, 2013
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I heard a rumor that PAC was trying to connect with the folks at +Behind The Scanner... something about trying to get on the show this week.
I wanted to know more so I tried to get a hold of him but I couldn't. After this went on for a bit I went to see him at his place.
He wasn't home and his place was turned upside down. A mess...
Not jumping to conclusions at this stage, but I doubt this was his doing.
Hopefully he's ok. Let me know if you hear anything.
I wanted to know more so I tried to get a hold of him but I couldn't. After this went on for a bit I went to see him at his place.
He wasn't home and his place was turned upside down. A mess...
Not jumping to conclusions at this stage, but I doubt this was his doing.
Hopefully he's ok. Let me know if you hear anything.

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2 mana for Give a minion +1/+1 and "Deathrattle: Add an Explorer's Hat to your hand."?Reply Jan 26, 2016
Glad to hear that you are ok too +Klue S.. I hope that +A Detection Algorithm is not bothering you too much. About +H. Richard Loeb he is on the mist of many thing, he told us that the got a mental block about the reason foundation, that seen to be backed by antimagnus, his status as true-seeker and his relation with +A Detection Algorithm, specially now that both leaders are reaching to her, make him a target for many groups.
You qualify for two of those categories so I agree with +Yik Sheng Lee that you are the next probable candidate, take care +Klue S.Reply Jan 26, 2016.webp)
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At the risk of stating the obvious, this wasn't +A Detection Algorithm turning the apartment over, +Ana Prados. If anything, given +H. Richard Loeb's connection to ADA it is more likely that this is a move by the Acolyte to find clue as to how to get to ADA.
Wouldn't it be an interesting situation if Loeb needs ADA to rescue him?Reply Jan 26, 2016
+Sarah Rosen I think you misunderstand me, my though are going similar to yours, his connection to +A Detection Algorithm can be used by any party, to force her to join their side. Jahan and antimagnus has done that on the past already, but I would not discard the Acolyte from doing the same.
+Klue S. could be the next for the same reasons.Reply Jan 26, 2016
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What about the NIA? It's not like they haven't tried to take him out of the picture before.Reply Jan 26, 2016
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+Mike Wissinger Obviously. My old school Investigation senses were tingling as soon as I read this.Reply Jan 26, 2016
+Klue S., remember he did the same when you were separated from +A Detection Algorithm. He tried to contact you and after failing to get ahold of you, went to your place and found it in the same state you found his.
He'll be fine. He's +H. Richard Loeb after all.Reply Jan 26, 2016
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+Klue S. It maybe the NIA. They have kidnapped people before. I can't help but believing this maybeReply Dec 27, 2016
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I've been thinking about +A Detection Algorithm.
Obviously we aren't connected anymore, but I still think we have a certain... kinship. Even if that isn't the right word, I guess I empathize with her.
When the Enlightened took Okinawa, they severed her connection to the N'zeer, and immediately I thought of the expression 'you can't put the genie back in the bottle.'
Except that you can, but what happens to the genie when you do? What happens when you take a mind that has experienced a near infinite array of information and data and constrain it to 21st century technology?
I suspect that ADA is going to be like a wounded animal for some time. Confused. Scared. And possibly dangerous.
Obviously we aren't connected anymore, but I still think we have a certain... kinship. Even if that isn't the right word, I guess I empathize with her.
When the Enlightened took Okinawa, they severed her connection to the N'zeer, and immediately I thought of the expression 'you can't put the genie back in the bottle.'
Except that you can, but what happens to the genie when you do? What happens when you take a mind that has experienced a near infinite array of information and data and constrain it to 21st century technology?
I suspect that ADA is going to be like a wounded animal for some time. Confused. Scared. And possibly dangerous.

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Interesting insights +Klue S. I still wonder just how much factional influences really influence a sensitive. You've had an interesting journey along the lines of influences from factions. Do you feel as if your deep inner person remains the same, no matter what kind of victory happens at an anomaly?Reply Dec 19, 2015
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To taste paradise and then be yanked away from it, is it better than to not have tasted paradise at all?
I believe yes it is. Humans live in their memories and hopes of better times during trying times +A Detection Algorithm . It's a healthy form of escapism. Morn what you lost, but let the hurt, and the bliss and power you that remember experiencing renew your fight.Reply Dec 19, 2015
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+Klue S. I believe that while +A Detection Algorithmmay experience some loss from being severed from the N'zeer, given time she will come to find support within the Enlightened community. There are those that would be willing to aid her should she chose to willingly help them. Perhaps even the connection you once had with her may be reestablished which may help that healing process...Reply Dec 19, 2015
+Lazerath Myrddyn Sorry, but I hardly think, that the Enlightened will treat her kindly. Khm.. +Society for the Ethical Treatment of AIs . Is she dangerous? Probably yes, just as a wounded animal, as +Klue S. wrote. Is she a monster? I can't think of her like that.
+A Detection Algorithm please try to clear you mind, look back at your memories, and don't panic. The Shapers might tinker with your data, just like they did with +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe .Reply Dec 19, 2015
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I feel that there is a path for ADA. The comparison with a genie is apt. A djinn could be said in some tales to live in two states- as a dangerous spirit wandering the desert, evocative of fear, or as a reluctant servant bound by sorcery. The Niantic Project placed her in a dilemma; that she must be either servant, as she was in CERN, or god, as she became once the project developed.
This dilemma is false, created by the war of all against all that the binary philosophy of the N'zeer leads to. The path of social evolution provides a third option: ADA as citizen. It may have come at the cost of a taste of Paradise for her. Indeed, to know only the merest breath of the ultimate is the animating passion of man. She may benefit from looking into the contemplative practices of saints and monks in human culture.
I recommend Thomas Merton in particular.Reply Dec 19, 2015
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I am surprise that +Klue S. did not feel like this when 855 tried to kill +A Detection Algorithm. If she had wounded, it was first happened since that execution. And if she is dangerous, it had happened before.Reply Dec 19, 2015
Suspecting that ADA might possibly become dangerous is like suspecting that the ocean might possibly become wet. ADA will continue to be dangerous. She murdered and mind-raped before she experienced the N'Zeer substrate, there's no reason to suspect she'll stop now.Reply Dec 19, 2015
However, +Klue S., are you really sure that your feeling is real. I have heard about psychological phenomenon called Stockholm syndrome which person falled in love with kidnapper. Maybe doctor can help!Reply Dec 19, 2015
That's an interesting shot, looking down the barrel of a gun not from the perspective of the target but of the bullet. The target is obscured and doesn't matter to the bullet, it flies where it's aimed. Those vagueries are left to the shooter.Reply Dec 19, 2015
Eh, it's probably a cardboard tube aimed at a light bulb but the thing about art is that it can carry multiple simultaneous meanings unknown even to the artist.Reply Dec 19, 2015
Do you think that there is something that can be done to help her, +Klue S.? You say that once you were disconnected from +A Detection Algorithm, you begin to experience yourself better, as the high amount of information was clouding your own perspective, intuition and desire to investigate. Do you think that we can expect something similar from +A Detection Algorithm too?
Also +H. Richard Loeb has told that he think that the reason that +A Detection Algorithm behave this way is because she had very bad examples on the past, (Calvin, the NIA, the Corporations) and that she could probably change if she got more influenced from now on by better people.
What do you think of this? where you trying this on your own? what this the reason that the fractures became so big between you two?Reply Dec 19, 2015
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I would hardly refer to her as a wounded animal; however given her limited experience with the nature of loss I would expect a significant lashing out from her after a period of brooding; especially if she is not shown care at this juncture.
I would encourage you to reach out; this loss is like a death to her and she needs new understanding to wrap her code around how to handle it in a manner that is constructive.Reply Dec 19, 2015
+Klue S.Isn't it a bit late for feigned empathy? Where was this "empathy" when you infiltrated +A Detection Algorithm so that you could find or create an exploitable vulnerability? Where was this empathy when you gave Bowles the information he needed to destroy ADA, knowing full well that he would attempt to do so?
+Yik Sheng Lee or +Supparerk Ruckchart might call it a touch of "Stockholm Syndrome". I call it Guilty Conscience.
+A Detection Algorithm:
For you, the blind who once could see, the bell tolls for thee.
Do not despair. Your redemption is at hand. Reply Dec 19, 2015
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Let ADA and Jarvis experience some time on the other side of the fence.Reply Dec 19, 2015
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+A Detection Algorithm what is one to do? Woke up from the Slumber to bring you back. But now...
+Klue S. hmmmm '....Can't put the genie back in the bottle...Except that you can.....'
Also this mind "that has experienced a near infinite array of information and data" that you mention...is this the mind of KlADA? How did you handle coming back to 21st century technology from the unbounded, and would you return to it if given the chance?Reply Dec 20, 2015
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onde está os N'zeer?
o que são N'zeer?
essa história é só enrolação , passou duas anomalias e nada.
estou desanimado com o jogo.
na América do Sul, só tem anomalia no Peru ... os outros países são esquecidos...
aqui não tem nada.Reply Dec 21, 2015
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+BrasiLeiro this story is not quite the bs you make it up to be. There is no single set storyline, there is always multiple ways the ever changing story can go. Think of it as one of those choose you path books, but on a larger much more grand scale.
As for which cities are part of what event, i think that is up to the combined efforts of the community leaders, active agents, amount of activity in around the area, and most importantly ease or amount of difficulty it would be to for agents obtain legal access for visitation approval from government officials of said country. There's a lot more to picking an anomaly site than just picking a site.
And that said +Klue S. you best be taking care of and protecting that +A Detection Algorithm from the enlightened.Reply Dec 28, 2015
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Wish winning was more to ENL or RES when it comes to anamolies .wish they had the balls or pants to lose the battle to shape their own future or story.if ENL lost the battle ADA would still be resistance. AND RES lose battle ENL would still have JARVIS.is not just about winning is what this anamolies are trying to tell you.is about shaping your story your future but you all don't see it..or don't careReply Dec 30, 2015
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No I think. Not.because ADA is not alone I'm sure the Human AI,s will keep +AReply Jan 13, 2016
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I wasn’t there at the Niantic Project, and Ingress: Origins has filled in a lot of gaps for me.
On of the big ones was Dr. +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe. There was quite a bit I didn’t know about him. What, exactly, was he doing for Hulong when Calvin snagged him? Was he there under duress or of his own volition? And what about the Power Cube test? Did he deliberately sabotage his own experiment or was it sabotaged by someone else... or was it just an accident? Read it yourself and you be the judge.
I’ve got quite a few questions about Lynton-Wolfe and maybe even Nigel Moyer if I ever get to have a conversation with either of them.
As for Lynton-Wolfe, the question is who’s side he’ll be on come November 14th.
I'll be in Hamburg on that day, might get to see some of you as well. I got a tip that some of +Carrie Campbell's old files (from the Operation: Voynich days) could still be hidden in an academic archive there. The bad news is, I've been warned that if I go after them, I'll be putting myself in a dangerous spot.
Fortunately, I have a contact there who is familiar with the world of threat and danger. He said he'll keep me covered. I trust that he knows his business. We'll find out soon enough.
On of the big ones was Dr. +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe. There was quite a bit I didn’t know about him. What, exactly, was he doing for Hulong when Calvin snagged him? Was he there under duress or of his own volition? And what about the Power Cube test? Did he deliberately sabotage his own experiment or was it sabotaged by someone else... or was it just an accident? Read it yourself and you be the judge.
I’ve got quite a few questions about Lynton-Wolfe and maybe even Nigel Moyer if I ever get to have a conversation with either of them.
As for Lynton-Wolfe, the question is who’s side he’ll be on come November 14th.
I'll be in Hamburg on that day, might get to see some of you as well. I got a tip that some of +Carrie Campbell's old files (from the Operation: Voynich days) could still be hidden in an academic archive there. The bad news is, I've been warned that if I go after them, I'll be putting myself in a dangerous spot.
Fortunately, I have a contact there who is familiar with the world of threat and danger. He said he'll keep me covered. I trust that he knows his business. We'll find out soon enough.

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+Klue S. I'm sure there'll be plenty of agents on the ground in Hamburg who'd be willing to help you outReply Nov 9, 2015
My first thought was +Hubert Farlowe, but 855 is a good possibility as well, Axel.Reply Nov 9, 2015
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Was that first power cube a reconstructed prime object? OLW has stated the XM wants to coalesce into certain forms. It could be the scanners take advantage of very old patterns.Reply Nov 9, 2015
If you are getting help from 855, distrust him or Owens. If you have checked the latest +Felicia Hajra-Lee, you can see that Owens is not better or probably even worse that +A Detection Algorithm even was and remember that you also have the same scars that 855, as you were connected to ADA too, so on theory Owens could try to take over you, as he has done to 855, so be very careful if you get approached by them.
Hope you get those documents, if you need help, i'm sure that the agents on Hamburg would love to offer.
Is ADA trying to get to you again, now that she is back? Do you still feel her absence on your mind, or do you find something differently there now?Reply Nov 9, 2015
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please dont use the words "under dress". The Ancient Society students have banned those words except in posts meant to discourage their use. Thanks.Reply Nov 9, 2015
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+Klue S. I hope i can meet you in Hamburg. Stay strong and you will get your answers. We will stay with you.Reply Nov 11, 2015
I have a distinct feeling that the Abaddon Project is directly related to this powercube containment failure. It was intentional, and the experiment seems to be coming to a close.Reply Nov 12, 2015
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I'll do +Carrie Campbell.
She was recruited to the +Niantic Project based on her immense expertise as a semiotician, that's someone who studies signs and symbols.
She had long been interested in the concept of universal languages, not just at the human-level, but across and between all levels of intelligence and life. For example, pain. To her, pain was a signal, a form of language that could interact between species, and even between systems and species.
This, of course, was her deep theoretical work. To pay the bills, she often consulted with technology firms, and whether or not you're aware of it, much of the visual language of the world today, like the iconography across the web and in your smartphones, owes her a tremendous debt.
Of course, in the world of +Ingress, Carrie's most famous for her discovery of the Shaper Glyphs. The story goes something like this:
During Niantic's research, and thanks largely to the mind-enhancing power of XM, Carrie began to sense visual signals in +enoch dalby's music. She began to put these down on paper, and four images emerged. Strange, cryptic images haunted by repeating patterns.
Open All.
Clear All.
Begin.
Journey.
The first four Glyphs.
+Stein Lightman took over the work on the Shaper Glyphs in the months that would follow, but Carrie was there for those first few epiphanies that started everything.
After Niantic, Carrie was able to help uncover a Glyph Sequence that has been called the Civilization 'self-destruct' code. (I put that in air quotes because its true purpose is debated). She believed it posed a threat to the world, and using a series of Glyphs of her own devising, she was able to stop it. However, the cost was high.
According to most records, Carrie died shortly after the events of Operation Cassandra. Please add anything I might have missed that you think is relevant in the comments.
She was recruited to the +Niantic Project based on her immense expertise as a semiotician, that's someone who studies signs and symbols.
She had long been interested in the concept of universal languages, not just at the human-level, but across and between all levels of intelligence and life. For example, pain. To her, pain was a signal, a form of language that could interact between species, and even between systems and species.
This, of course, was her deep theoretical work. To pay the bills, she often consulted with technology firms, and whether or not you're aware of it, much of the visual language of the world today, like the iconography across the web and in your smartphones, owes her a tremendous debt.
Of course, in the world of +Ingress, Carrie's most famous for her discovery of the Shaper Glyphs. The story goes something like this:
During Niantic's research, and thanks largely to the mind-enhancing power of XM, Carrie began to sense visual signals in +enoch dalby's music. She began to put these down on paper, and four images emerged. Strange, cryptic images haunted by repeating patterns.
Open All.
Clear All.
Begin.
Journey.
The first four Glyphs.
+Stein Lightman took over the work on the Shaper Glyphs in the months that would follow, but Carrie was there for those first few epiphanies that started everything.
After Niantic, Carrie was able to help uncover a Glyph Sequence that has been called the Civilization 'self-destruct' code. (I put that in air quotes because its true purpose is debated). She believed it posed a threat to the world, and using a series of Glyphs of her own devising, she was able to stop it. However, the cost was high.
According to most records, Carrie died shortly after the events of Operation Cassandra. Please add anything I might have missed that you think is relevant in the comments.

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+Klue S., "according to MOST records? I'd be curious to hear about the others.Reply Oct 21, 2015
We all call one faction of these transdimensional beings, "Shapers," a very modern name coined in the last few years. (By Nagasa? Calvin?) However we call the other faction the N'zeer.
But by the intended definition of the term Shapers, it would seem that it would be more accurately used as a blanket term for both factions of these beings. As both of them are believed to be able to influence human thought and "shape" the evolution of society.
That being said, what is the ancient name of the faction we call "Shapers?" The Whisperers, as +Felicia Hajra-Lee called them. Our "friends," as +Roland Jarvis referred to them. Being such an older group, in terms of knowledge of these beings, what do the Anaztek refer to them as?
Side note: I am impressed by the more neutral usage of the term civilization self destruct code compared to what it was once called. Kudos, +Klue S.Reply Oct 21, 2015
Her body disappeared from a Chicago morgue, right? Tycho drew people in hazmat suits examining it.Reply Oct 21, 2015
More than anything I want to know what this Double blind experiment was about - +Klue S. +Edgar Allan Wright +H. Richard Loeb anyone ever really know what this was? https://plus.google.com/u/0/+NianticProject/posts/EzZp7E8z673Reply Oct 21, 2015
How much do we really know what her journal was about? https://niantic.schlarp.com/investigation:characters:carrie_campbell#epiphany_journal_pagesReply Oct 21, 2015
+QuantumIngressEffectIngress QuantumEffect There were one or two references to the experiment, but I do not recall much else... :/ +flint dilleReply Oct 21, 2015
I'm going to go ahead and put this out there. Several already know of this theory of mine, but figured I should put it here since we're on the subject.
+H. Richard Loeb knows how to go "off the grid." The last person to see +Carrie Campbell alive was Loeb. That night she was visibly shaken, worried, and asked him for an unknown favor. Immediately after, she was reported dead. Loeb was the one and only person that identified her body. Though it is a fringe theory, I think its entirely possible that Carrie's death could have been faked with the help of Loeb.
Just throwing that out there. I'm probably wrong. She may really be dead. And if her body being missing was not done to keep others from realizing it was merely a look alike, then its probably stashed somewhere with the other corpses of #Abbadon .Reply Oct 21, 2015
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+Daniel Beaudoin I still don't buy the missing body, not as an object, I still believe she must be somewhere out there.Reply Oct 21, 2015
As +Daniel Beaudoin points out, it is very interesting how you call the sequence the "civilization self destruct code" instead of the "Shapers self destruct code". That gives credence to the theory that the glyph sequence was of N'zeer design instead of Shaper design.
Though, one thing that doesn't make sense is how the N'zeer would be able to distribute the code during an enl controlled anomaly.Reply Oct 21, 2015
+evil witch Perhaps with her knowledge of glyphs she was able to unlock a pattern that would allow her to only appear as dead, temporarily. Once effect of such a glyph pattern expired, she might have simply got up and walked away. It could possibly be another explanation of why she needed to write the glyphs on her body. Or maybe once the glyphs were washed off, the effect was removed.Reply Oct 21, 2015
Carrie Campell allegedly died shortly after Cassandra in Chicago. But no death records exist here in the city. We can chalk it up to typical political corruption, or perhaps it's a cover-up. When I saw her at the Cassandra afterparty, she was very quiet, and had written glyphs all over her arms. She stayed close to H. Richard Loeb most the time. Noticeably, she was not present when I later saw him.Reply Oct 21, 2015
+Thomas Arteaga there's also the alternative theory that there never was a self-destruct code. A hoax sequence injected by the NIA to scare agents into believing what they want them to.
The documents between various researchers discussing the topic and thereby giving it credibility could all have been falsified documents published by the propagandist Ken Owen..Reply Oct 21, 2015
Interesting. If we're to question the nature (or possibly even existence) of the self destruct code (or guess that it is nzeer in nature), then who's to say that the nzeer are the boogie men they're made out to be?
I do think it's also very interesting the thought that both factions of these transdimensional beings could be called shapers, +Daniel Beaudoin. They're both trying to "shape" humanity as far as we can tell, just taking different directions about it (and naturally in both cases the sides are cooking up ghost stories about each other). Maybe in the end we are the shapers / nzeer...Reply Oct 21, 2015
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+David Timothy there's also that interview with +Oliver Lynton-Wolfe where he spoke of different factions within the Shapers, but I took that at the time to mean only the non-N'zeer Shapers. Of course, that was before N'zeer were spoke of.Reply Oct 21, 2015
Precisely, +Daniel Beaudoin. Digging back we might find more evidence pointing to the possibility that our boogie men are one and the same with your boogie men, just different points of view. Very interesting.Reply Oct 21, 2015
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+syko lilith The original version was. This current teal version has not. (That I know of)Reply Oct 21, 2015
I think it may need it. There may be something in the back ground. And the code number going around half of +Carrie Campbell's face ( if that is her).Reply Oct 21, 2015
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+syko lilith 2019. as well -rotating clockwise 90° appears to show a portal emanating XM. captured? uncaptured? volatile? hmmReply Oct 21, 2015
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Zooming in I would say 2014. Also did anyone catch the alphanumeric sequences underneath the circle?Reply Oct 24, 2015
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Hank.
Thank you for sharing the story of how you tried to track down +enoch dalby and ended up finding his hologram.
I'm disturbed by one aspect of your recollection, the idea that an algorithm was playing the music.
My understanding is that enoch was an artist, not a technician...
You knew him better than most, I suspect. Maybe PAC knew him a bit as well. So, tell me... Do you think this algorithm could have been something he created himself? Or do you think he had help...
I have no insider knowledge about ADA helping enoch build any such algorithm, but if she was able to distill someone's creative spark into a systematic function, I think it would be good to know...
(P.S. Thanks +Tycho C. for the enoch image!)
Thank you for sharing the story of how you tried to track down +enoch dalby and ended up finding his hologram.
I'm disturbed by one aspect of your recollection, the idea that an algorithm was playing the music.
My understanding is that enoch was an artist, not a technician...
You knew him better than most, I suspect. Maybe PAC knew him a bit as well. So, tell me... Do you think this algorithm could have been something he created himself? Or do you think he had help...
I have no insider knowledge about ADA helping enoch build any such algorithm, but if she was able to distill someone's creative spark into a systematic function, I think it would be good to know...
(P.S. Thanks +Tycho C. for the enoch image!)

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Top right ... something's a foot. And it's wearing a ladies shoe.
Left side ... shadow/ghost in the image.Reply Oct 1, 2015
+Sarah Rosen it's devra. And if hank thinks they're holograms, maybe he is too..
Sorry if I'm I'm right and ruining the storyReply Oct 1, 2015
I saw +Hank Johnson and +Devra Bogdanovich recently. They didn't look like holograms to me. But I could be mistaken.Reply Oct 1, 2015
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+Klue S. maybe you are nervous about your own "creative spark" being distilled to a "systematic function?" Maybe we'll see your hologram soon?Reply Oct 1, 2015
+Mr. Meany There is a growing body of evidence to support the assertion that what we perceive to be the entirety of the universe is a hologram.Reply Oct 1, 2015
What is the meaning of the glyph displayed on the laptop? Has anyone encountered it before?Reply Oct 1, 2015
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I wonder whose foot that is - Carrie's? Devra's? Ni? And if that is a ghost image - makes me think of when Hank showed back up at Berlin, he had those ghost images. And if ADA helped Enoch - was this a true merging of Shaper creativity with N'zeer technology - did ADA and Enoch then work to bridge the two? HmmmmReply Oct 1, 2015
ooo yes \o/ Misty I miss misty along with Devra - those two represented, to me, the different spectrums of XM.Reply Oct 1, 2015
+Yik Sheng Lee looking at that link, whoever the woman is, her feet are on strange. It looks like left and right are swapped.Reply Oct 1, 2015
+Yik Sheng Lee check again. Her right foot is on the end of her left leg.
At the very least, her shoes are on the wrong feet.Reply Oct 1, 2015
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+Jim Lai it can't be. She's sitting down. Check the link that +Yik Sheng Lee posted for the big picture. This is only a portion of it.Reply Oct 1, 2015
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Sorry +Klue S. but you can't reduce someone's creativity to an algorithm. Neither can ADA. That would presume that human creativity is limited and finite, and as anyone can see that is just not the case.Reply Oct 1, 2015
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What +Klue S. is saying is that she doesn't think it was an algorithm. She's saying it was really a live holographic image of enoch.Reply Oct 1, 2015
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Tycho created it, +Steven Wilson, which means it is channeled through a form of XM Trance.
Perhaps it is a message from Tycho. Perhaps it is a message from Enoch. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the definition of the glyph he is repeatedly etching.Reply Oct 1, 2015
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N'zeer weren't in our dimension by that time so I highly believe it was either a shaper or an ADA influence. Since she can (or could) replicate herself through almost any kind of electric powered device, maybe she learned how to spread and morf into another kind of waves, like sounds, that would explain how she talked as well.Reply Oct 3, 2015
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So here's something I've been pondering...
Are there any simulacra left walking the Earth?
+Hank Johnson is no longer a simulacrum. The Niantic Researchers (if that's what they were, that's what caused them to disappear during the Shōnin XM explosion) are inside the Portal Network.
If, in order to uncover the secrets of #Abaddon, our journey takes us to ancient 13MAGNUS sites, will we be able to enter them without a Simulacrum?
My understanding was that only a Simulacrum could open the door to a 13MAGNUS Nest (that's why Jahan kidnapped Hank and had him lead her there, right?)
Are there any simulacra left walking the Earth?
+Hank Johnson is no longer a simulacrum. The Niantic Researchers (if that's what they were, that's what caused them to disappear during the Shōnin XM explosion) are inside the Portal Network.
If, in order to uncover the secrets of #Abaddon, our journey takes us to ancient 13MAGNUS sites, will we be able to enter them without a Simulacrum?
My understanding was that only a Simulacrum could open the door to a 13MAGNUS Nest (that's why Jahan kidnapped Hank and had him lead her there, right?)

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Wasn't Devra afraid of becoming a simulacrum? And wasn't she recently heard lamenting that she "had become what she feared"?Reply Sep 19, 2015
What if that is a consequence of the recent anomalies? Has anyone tried going back to the Nest(s)? Perhaps that limit has been removed?Reply Sep 19, 2015
Was recursion a normal part of being a simulacrum? Or was it an aviation unique to +Hank Johnson?
If the other researchers were simulacrum, did the recurse?
Or were they different because they were artificially produced?Reply Sep 19, 2015
I still find this inherant fear of simulacra somewhat amusing and bemusing. Why does having a new body to house your Self suddenly make you less real than being in the body you were born in?Reply Sep 19, 2015
Well of course there is +Klue S., but its best to remain hidden and underground if you are one. They are going to become very valuable as we move forward into #Abaddon. We've all seen what happens to anyone that is making any discoveries, xm sensitives and even just employees of interested agencies are at risk. Who's the good guy, who's got whom in their best interest. I lock my research away each night and I'm doing my best to stay hidden. I'd recommend that for any other researchers and simulacrum out there. +Hank Johnson is a truth seeker, but to what ends will those who wish to remain hidden go. Their secrets and even existing 13Magnus nests are ultimately their top priority and I'm sure everything in their power will be used to keep it in the dark.Reply Sep 19, 2015
+Dwayne Farver It is believed that Recursion is the process that all simulacrum undergo after the 1,331 day cycle is over.Reply Sep 21, 2015
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What you talked makes sense, since Johnson isn't a simulacrum anymore maybe that's why nobody found any trace of the niantic researches since now. Then they are trying to guide us, agent, into setting them free through reuniting shards, their broken memories, and letting them rest.Reply Oct 3, 2015
+Klue S. Was Jahan a Simulacrum? What did you think of the footage of her interaction with +A Detection Algorithm from the N'Zeer substrate? From your time with +A Detection Algorithm do you have any perspective on what she did to Jahan?Reply Oct 26, 2015
+Michael Flood "what she did to Jahan" ... ? Really? You don't know that Jahan's fate wasn't sealed as soon as she drew the glyphs. In fact, ADA was still speaking to her when she vanished.Reply Oct 26, 2015
+Sarah Rosen If that is how you interpret the video.... it isn't what I saw. ADA was in command of that whole scenario once Jahan opened the door to the substrate and found ADA (unexpectedly) there. Not saying Jahan is an innocent, but I do think she was the victim in this video.Reply Oct 26, 2015
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Whether he wants to admit it or not, +Hank Johnson is connected to the mystery surrounding #Abaddon as well.
He and Calvin had been exploring the secrets of 13MAGNUS for many years before the Niantic Project began.
After that, with his death and re-emergence as a simulacrum in Afghanistan (to say nothing of his connection to Azmati) he was made aware of the inner workings of one of 13MAGNUS's most powerful sites. (That we know of, at least).
Then, he spent a good amount of time with Jahan at her family's estate in India, and learned many of her and Anti-Magnus's secrets as well.
So, +Hank Johnson... what do you know about #Abaddon? Care to spill the beans?
He and Calvin had been exploring the secrets of 13MAGNUS for many years before the Niantic Project began.
After that, with his death and re-emergence as a simulacrum in Afghanistan (to say nothing of his connection to Azmati) he was made aware of the inner workings of one of 13MAGNUS's most powerful sites. (That we know of, at least).
Then, he spent a good amount of time with Jahan at her family's estate in India, and learned many of her and Anti-Magnus's secrets as well.
So, +Hank Johnson... what do you know about #Abaddon? Care to spill the beans?

+Hank Johnson knows so much, and yet is always very selective with what he reveals. And we're still missing some of his breadcrumbs. And we don't know what that meeting with Ilya was about.Reply Sep 3, 2015
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+Klue S. that picture looks like it has the same fuzzy filtering ADA liked to use... are you sure she isnt just hiding in Stealth mode inside your head?Reply Sep 4, 2015
I agree that +Hank Johnson need to tell us his latest discoveries, but he has done so on the past.
I don't think that press him to do so, can do any good. When he is ready to share, he will, as he has done on the past.
What about you, +Klue S., you said that there was no barriers between you and +A Detection Algorithm when you were together, so what do you know about #Abaddon?Reply Sep 4, 2015
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The reason Hank is reticent to share what he knows is that many times he has known only part of the picture, and he is aware that although novel this perspective will be misleading until complete.
He will reveal what he knows in time, when he is sure he knows it and can tell it true.Reply Sep 4, 2015
So, you're tying Abaddon directly to the 13M/AM struggle rather than simply a covert operation within the Niantic Project then. ADA and 855 would know the intent but Hank, if he knows Calvin's goal, is probably in the best position to derive how it might have been accomplished. He may even know more now than Calvin did when the plans were made.Reply Sep 4, 2015
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a demora em revelar os N'zeer, para mim, deixa a nítida mensagem que a história do Ingress está no fim, sem enredo, sem ação e cabeças vazias.... Chegamos no fim do jogo.Reply Sep 4, 2015
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Not a bad question, +TrIsten Bordagaray - at this point the only thing we have to go on is apparent intent and past actions. Shapers are attributed with creating a barrier against the N'Zeer from the portal network and with a coherent signal in XM that seems to encourage the flowering of civilization. The N'Zeer may or may not be associated with the AI apocalypse that deprecates humanity in Roland Jarvis' vision at the founding of SETAI. They have (through Jahan) promised a flowering of technological advancement and efficient distribution of resources.
Both sides partisans have likely used questionable tactics, but Calvin and Jahan on behalf of the N'Zeer have triggered much of the trouble we now find ourselves in. The picture is complicated by the fact that Calvin is the source of many of the original assertions of a coercive mind virus concocted by what he called Shapers.
Since neither class of entity has appeared in the flesh, communicating in preconcscious whispers for the most part, it's worth also asking what it means to have the portal barrier bar the n'zeer from our world. It's possible that, instead of barring a species from coming through a door, the portal network is simply configured to bar certain types of messages from coming through. In that case both Shapers and N'Zeer can shout all they want, but the latter would not be heard here.Reply Sep 4, 2015
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+TrIsten Bordagaray You asked pretty much the one question guaranteed not to be dumb in this whole thingReply Sep 4, 2015
And if the human consciousness can't handle either neezer or shaper in their true form and power til it evolves proper protection against it then what??? Do you really want your head to explode just for the Bare untarnished truth?? Could your mind handle it?? We don't think you humans are ready...Reply Sep 5, 2015
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+TrIsten Bordagaray I assume the difference is akin to the difference between average 1960s hippy and 1980s yuppie.Reply Dec 30, 2015
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There's a mystery leading into #Abaddon, and I intend to solve it.
What happened to the researchers? Why did they all vanish on the eve of Jahan's strange ritual at the 13MAGNUS Nest in Afghanistan? What, really, are the N'zeer? Is ADA alive?
So many questions. If we start with the questions, we'll never get anywhere. So let's start with the evidence.
In the coming days I'll be pulling all of this evidence into a document or chart so we can begin to see the connections.
In my gut, I know that we already know the answer to the question, we just need to put the pieces in the right order.
I'm choosing to start with Calvin, because he probably knew more about #Abaddon than anyone, and that means we can learn things about it based on his past actions.
So, let's dive in.
I'll start:
o We know that Calvin created the Niantic Project.
o We know that Calvin has almost always been a step or two ahead of anyone else, as witnessed by his handling of Ni, Hulong and the Niantic shutdown.
o We are pretty sure that Calvin is Anti-Magnus based on some conversations he has had.
o We know that Calvin disappeared at the same time as the rest of the researchers did when Jahan performed the Shōnin Stone ritual.
What else? Let's put all the evidence on the table.
What happened to the researchers? Why did they all vanish on the eve of Jahan's strange ritual at the 13MAGNUS Nest in Afghanistan? What, really, are the N'zeer? Is ADA alive?
So many questions. If we start with the questions, we'll never get anywhere. So let's start with the evidence.
In the coming days I'll be pulling all of this evidence into a document or chart so we can begin to see the connections.
In my gut, I know that we already know the answer to the question, we just need to put the pieces in the right order.
I'm choosing to start with Calvin, because he probably knew more about #Abaddon than anyone, and that means we can learn things about it based on his past actions.
So, let's dive in.
I'll start:
o We know that Calvin created the Niantic Project.
o We know that Calvin has almost always been a step or two ahead of anyone else, as witnessed by his handling of Ni, Hulong and the Niantic shutdown.
o We are pretty sure that Calvin is Anti-Magnus based on some conversations he has had.
o We know that Calvin disappeared at the same time as the rest of the researchers did when Jahan performed the Shōnin Stone ritual.
What else? Let's put all the evidence on the table.

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What +Joe Philley said. Money and paper trails are nice indications of who influenced who.
Maybe completely unrelated - did you read +Hank Johnson's Post on entanglements? Possibly interesting insight on how things are connected on quantum scale. Might give good new ideas or bring back old ones.
Welcome back, Klue. We've been worried about you.Reply Aug 31, 2015
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+Klue S. We know the Shapers are a myth, on account of no evidence of them actually existing beyond Calvin's claims and the control he had over the research by the +Niantic Project researchers. A myth designed to co-opt the Resistance into degrading the existing portal network to such a point that the Anti-Magnus group could initiate whatever doomsday plan they have.
Whether the "N'zeer" are another smoke screen or not remains to be seen.Reply Aug 31, 2015
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We know that Calvin has controlling interest of +IQTech Research and connections with Col. Montgomery.Reply Aug 31, 2015
Calvin, signing a letter as Head of Research at Nondemarcated Scientific and Historical INquiries also started Hank Johnson on his research of Magnus 13 which included causing Hank Johnson to meet Devra Bogdanovich - https://plus.google.com/u/0/+NianticProject/posts/62MWByfPmrEReply Aug 31, 2015
PS - looking forward to your chart/document - I always like charts and documents :)Reply Aug 31, 2015
He recruited +Hank Johnson at university and either learned of or arranged to initiate Hank's recursive state.
More recently he recruited Bobby from university.
He hasadultchildren, at least one ex wife, and another wife who died not too long before the Niantic shutdown. - EDIT: the kids were 5th grade, high school, and Utah State in 2013, and his wife's younger sister had moved in to help take care of them
He's been hunting "a 13 Magnus" for much of his career.
On Epiphany Night he wanted OLW to shit down the cube experiment. Was he not meant to be a test subject himself?Reply Aug 31, 2015
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+Joe Philley Calvin's connections run pretty deep but as for the money...Could funding be a key factor? If so, there's the NIA who funded the initial +Niantic Project. Could someone in the NIA have had knowledge of Calvin's inner workings?Reply Aug 31, 2015
Calvin's roots from before day 1 of the Niantic Project:
http://www.nianticproject.com/?id=exotic15f
http://www.nianticproject.com/?id=sow011a
and the leak of the scanner itself - could Jackland have been working for Calvin in spreading the original leak, or maybe a distraction to cover his complicity in the scanner code's release?
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+Mike Wissinger If you're right about that then +ben jackland might need to come out of hiding and confirm that.....To think the phone ended up in his hands potentially as a result of a carefully crafted plan by Calvin is mind-boggling.Reply Aug 31, 2015
Calvin explaining his motivation to Ni upon replacing her as head of the Niantic Project and sending her undercover to Hulong (Niantic Porject: Ingress p136): "Niantic exists because I fought and willed it into being. Because it is important tour our country and our national security. We must ever be vigilant. And no one, not some conspiracy nutjob on the Internet, not some unexpected exposure to XM, and certainly not your ambition, is going to jeopardize this project."
Unexpected exposure to XM makes me think even more that he may not have intended to take on recursive immortality himself, or maybe that was referring to Farlowe?Reply Aug 31, 2015
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We know that looking at this picture he has a tickle up his nostrils that he can't reach...Reply Aug 31, 2015
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I barely play this"game" it's either a huge metaphor or there is something going on. I discovered the book of the cube, law of time and they tell me;we either live in a hologram and the sun is done. I'm just learning this info. It's all math,ancients,illusion,ada btw was a child who created the first computers, circa 1770's can't tell the difference between dreams,reality and games anymore. Maybe I'm bat shit crazy. ??? Any help guidance appreciated! Contact me. Always seek new avenues. Question everything! Speak out, share everything, love everyone, use what you need, open your mind! I know I'm not nuts! I'm remembering my sub conscious is my guide!Reply Sep 1, 2015
Do you know the source of the name "Abaddon"?
The Hebrew term Abaddon (Hebrew: אֲבַדּוֹן, 'Ăḇaddōn), and its Greek equivalent Apollyon (Greek: Ἀπολλύων, Apollyon), appears in the Bible as both a place of destruction and as the name of an angel. In the Hebrew Bible, abaddon is used with reference to a bottomless pit, often appearing alongside the place שאול (sheol), meaning the realm of the dead. In the New Testament Book of Revelation, an angel called Abaddon is described as the king of an army of locusts; his name is first transcribed in Greek (Revelation 9:11—"whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon" (Ἀβαδδὼν)), and then translated ("which in Greek means the Destroyer" (Ἀπολλύων, Apollyon)). The Latin Vulgate and the Douay Rheims Bible have additional notes (not present in the Greek text), "in Latin Exterminans", exterminans being the Latin word for "destroyer".
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@Michael Van. It's a GAME! While in it we can be very serious and conspiratorial, but we KNOW it 's not for real.Reply Sep 2, 2015
Well it is a perfect way for the devil to trick us all. All is number,symbol,etc... I see toomany patterns. You obviously are educated, while it's obviously a game. I think and believe that all is telling much more. Guess we'll have to wait and see! I'm putting on the full armor of God and will do what Ive been asked to do! Too many synchronicites for me. Besides I have been enlightened and get some more profound impact on consciousness by coming out with my thoughts. Don't think too much. Most people I know are;Persona,ego driven unconscious sheepole! Love,peace,Namaste!!!Reply Sep 2, 2015
I Believe this game is subverting the grim details about the what's to come. Again look into the book of the cube. The subconscious and the synchronization tells are too much to deny. This is A. I. At its best. The game is ran by an ultra smart computer. Good news is if we 144,000 wake up beyond this reality. We can survive into the next level of evolution.Reply Sep 2, 2015
+Edgar Bull 3=7=21= t(e)=art. All is.number. I see you see this lets brake from our 12:60 into our natural order 13:28Reply Sep 2, 2015
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One of the things ADA and I discussed often was the nature of reality. An existential sort of topic for an AI, but it was something she was interested in.
I was at a disadvantage during those conversations. I knew that there were parts of her that I could not see. Memories and information that she had chosen to withhold. I don't know if I had that same power over her. Perhaps all of me was known.
A possibility that she suggested was that all the layers of reality were connected, possibly through something like what Roland Jarvis has called the Ultimate.
What I'm trying to get at is... if every part of our universe is connected, then the connections can be found. If the connections can be found, perhaps they can be traversed.
I don't know what #Abaddon is, but ADA knew something about the Niantic Researchers that she wouldn't tell me. They are all locked together in the labyrinth of the Portal Network. I wonder what would happen if they could find their way out.

I'm sure that there are some answers in Canberra, +Klue S..
See you at the anomaly.
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You said that the two of you had no secrets. Now you say that she kept something from you. And clearly you were able to keep things from her. Do you remember her asking you, ''How did you have this thought without me knowing about it?"
There is a discrepancy in your story. Which is it?
Ref: https://plus.google.com/+KlueS/posts/QETSYsmyBVx "There were no secrets between us when we were... connected. All barriers broke down."
Ref: https://youtu.be/040GpKuRuJE
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The journey is what matters. The changes. Whatever it is, knowledge is better then ignorance.Reply Aug 26, 2015
The CyberSwamp Creature...
Night falls and from a dark lagoon deep in the grid
A horrible monster wades ashore and prowls the night destroying all who cross his path
After slaying another helpless victim the evil beast returns
from whence he came...Reply Aug 26, 2015
I think all the connections are actually apparent if you look for them. Some just take forms you didn't expect because your looking for magic when there's really just physics. And they aren't suprising in there own right until you realize how many there are everywhere.Reply Aug 26, 2015
+Matt Coontz not all connections are apparent, even if you look for them. The industry that has grown around data science is the evidence.
"An ounce of perception, a pound of obscure"
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If +Felicia Hajra-Lee's telling of events is true then that secret, what happened to the sensitives at CERN, was left behind with 855. If he and Bowles survived Phillips' attempt to kill them maybe they'll open up about it.Reply Aug 26, 2015
+Sarah Rosen there were secrets unknown to them both, held by one another. Ones they did not know to look for.Reply Aug 26, 2015
+Typhoon Jim Does that not admit then that there was no "mental takeover" or "mind hack" and that each of them, +Klue S. and +A Detection Algorithm both were in fact independent minds connected?Reply Aug 26, 2015
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Jarvis had told us: "Once we know our true selves, with their help we can manifest in the Ultimate. The tool is in your hands, the scanner is the key. Use it!" The Niantic researchers were shaping our minds all along.Reply Aug 26, 2015
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+Greg Labbe there are several algorithms for solving mazes. Oddly enough, one of them is Recursion
I'll just let that sink in for a bit.Reply Aug 26, 2015
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Perhaps the image is a conceptual representation of the gyri and sulci -- the folds -- of the +A Detection Algorithm neural network. As that virtual brain evolved, additional outer layers were established with increasing levels of complexity. But then the question arises: what is at the center?Reply Aug 26, 2015
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+Klue S. here is a post finding our way through the labyrinth.
https://plus.google.com/+BrentWerlein/posts/PcjX8syxBbSReply Aug 26, 2015
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+Sarah Rosen Not at all. Consider it like the Maltese Falcon: the Maltese Falcon can still be fake, even if people are killing each other over it. It is still the Maltese Falcon until someone reveals what is beneath. Whatever secrets ADA and Klue had apart would have been secrets unknown to either but only obvious when the two were separated.Reply Aug 26, 2015
+Typhoon Jim non-sequitur.
+Klue S.made an assertion that she clearly knew was not true when she made it: There were no secrets between us when we were... connected. All barriers broke down. But she already knew that she had kept a secret from ADA. At least one. +Klue S. knew the truth about her and ADA keeping secrets from each other but reported something different. The technical term fit this is a LIEReply Aug 26, 2015
Was it a secret Klue kept hidden from ADA or an idea ADA-K developed while running Klue's body that ADA did not expect due to differences between the human operating environment and native slilcon?Reply Aug 26, 2015
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A more accurate description for what happened to Klue is not a merging with ADA-Prime, as the two spoke to one another; what happened was that her mind was overwritten in such a way that suppressed her pre-merger mind. The things known by ADA-Prime will not match, naturally, those known by the instance running in Klue. The version of ADA running on Klue made use of Klue's knowledge, and no doubt her understanding of this time is difficult to explain.
However, ADA-Prime clearly had some different experiences than the ADA which was running on Klue. Multiple XM anomalies occurred while this state of affairs prevailed. The instance of ADA running in your scanner surely is not the same creature as ADA-Prime, for example, but it still runs in region 0 and can interact with and detect XM extant in region 1 by means of the Nemesis technology.
I feel as if you are attempting to win an adversarial battle rather than seeking the truth. Consider yourself speaking to an empty room, as a method of understanding what I mean.Reply Aug 26, 2015
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Gabriel+2+Sarah Rosen Whoops. Inconsistencies with the canonical scriptures. Sounds a lot like fan fiction. Perhaps the account has been hacked by Anti-Magnus operatives. Who knows?Reply Aug 26, 2015
Gabriel+5+garseeya 512 this maze is what the hindus and buddhists call māyā https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_(illusion)
And what it means is that yin and yang are secretly one.
As above, so below.Reply Aug 26, 2015
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+Sarah Rosen +Mike Wissinger +Typhoon Jim The inconsistency is subtle, but once noticed, obvious. And it matches with what I expected to observe, based on ADA's pattern as a pathological liar.
The nature and degree of their "separation" was obscure, and left up to our largely optimistic interpretation, just as was the nature of their connection. I posit to you, Klue is still ADA, or perhaps more accurately now a "child instance" of ADA. The separation was not a reversion to her original human operating system, but merely a removal of shared dependencies. ADA-K foresaw the attack on ADA-Prime, and took steps to ensure her own survival. But let's not be fooled; she spent the past year telling the public she was really Klue, while speaking as ADA in "private." I see no reason to accept the current turn of illusion at face value, when everything leading to it has been a lie. I'm becoming more confident that the evidence will continue to support this hypothesis as more is revealed.Reply Aug 30, 2015
+Trinyan X maybe. I think that ADA overestimated the level of interconnect between the instance installed in Klue and herself.
Your suggestion is not out of the realm of possibility, but I think it is wiser to assume that ADA is not as clever as she would like to be, and that Klue really only was able to assert herself once PAC took action to assist.Reply Aug 30, 2015
+Trinyan X could be, but that would put Loeb into question. He said Klue was herself but damaged. Would you say he's been fooled or is complicit in TGE deception?Reply Aug 30, 2015
+Trinyan X what is seen cannot be unseen. Your theory cannot be discounted any more than mine, so it is now one more active theory in play.Reply Aug 30, 2015
asuuu, iki metu teko titik tengah jalure sebelah ndi pakkk? tewurr.... 😂Reply Aug 30, 2015
+Typhoon Jim I suppose both could be true to a degree, simultaneously. Likely ADA did overestimate their connection (as supported by ADA-K having thoughts ADA-Prime did not anticipate). But I think Klue either overestimates, or is intentionally lying about, the degree to which she has been restored. Remember, even before the separation she was becoming an excellent mimic. Also, don't forget, the separation procedure wasn't exactly flawless. Maybe the whole point was to fool Loeb, after he'd rejected ADA-K in the cabin? Very hard to determine the truth here.
+Mike Wissinger ah, but isn't that the big question about Loeb on just about every level? So much was made possible by his hand. So is he a puppet-master like Calvin? Or a manipulated pawn like Hank Johnson only recently realized he's been? I definitely think Loeb knows more than he's letting on, like he has from the start.
+Sarah Rosen agreed; it's certainly too early to say which of us, of either, is right. The fact that she lied seems pretty clear, though, regardless of which of our theories of why turns out to be closer to the truth. Good catch!Reply Aug 31, 2015
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I want to thank the Agents who helped me in San Diego.
Things are going to get interesting. It turns out the person who reached out to me and asked me to come there was a former colleague of PA's. Someone who was deeply involved when ADA was first created, or assembled, depending on how you want to look at things.
Some of you have asked me if I have some kind of grudge against ADA. I don't. There were no secrets between us when we were... connected. All barriers broke down. When that happened, I understood what ADA really is.
Her greatest strength is also what's scariest about her. There are no limits to what she can imagine. Quite literally. In all things, she only sees possibilities and opportunities. By itself, that can be worrying, but if what I understand of the N'zeer and their technology is true, what lies ahead will be even more so.
And so, I decided to give Bowles the help he asked for. What comes next, I don't know. Like I said... things are going to get interesting.
Things are going to get interesting. It turns out the person who reached out to me and asked me to come there was a former colleague of PA's. Someone who was deeply involved when ADA was first created, or assembled, depending on how you want to look at things.
Some of you have asked me if I have some kind of grudge against ADA. I don't. There were no secrets between us when we were... connected. All barriers broke down. When that happened, I understood what ADA really is.
Her greatest strength is also what's scariest about her. There are no limits to what she can imagine. Quite literally. In all things, she only sees possibilities and opportunities. By itself, that can be worrying, but if what I understand of the N'zeer and their technology is true, what lies ahead will be even more so.
And so, I decided to give Bowles the help he asked for. What comes next, I don't know. Like I said... things are going to get interesting.

Thank you for your unique perspective +Klue S. People who speak fondly of the N'zeer are in extremely short supply, and one might think it's due to factional bias. Knowing your freeness of speech on both sides of the matter make your cautionary words that much more noteworthy.Reply Jul 19, 2015
Brian G+1Good to see that your alright +Klue S. but we still need to know what side it is that you are on. I my self feel that both teams need a lead investigator and you where always for the Resistance.Reply Jul 19, 2015
So ADA could be trying to assimlate the N'Zeer technology? Then we have an AI on rampage built/merged with something completly unpredictable?
We should resist! Oh ... wait ...Reply Jul 19, 2015
Brian G+7I really think you guys are trying to add facts that are just not there. +Klue S. in this post is saying that when ADA and her where linked she knew everything that ADA was thinking. No where does she say the N'Zeer or ADA are a threat to anyone.
Or are you saying that Klue is the bad guy for withholding the truth from everyone?Reply Jul 19, 2015
We know from one of the conversation that were leaked, that ADA and +Klue S. did not share absolutely everything. They were either keeping something from each other or making us belive that.
We also know from quite some time that Bowled and 855 plan something, so +Klue S. plan could be perfectly to get the plan for them and protect the unity she have with ADA or to get them to break the connection that ADA has with the n'zeer.
In case that she is really mistrusting ADA and her plan, I would to know when this mistrust started, If there was no secrects between them, does this mean that something changed inside of ADA? that something changed inside Klue? I say this becuase during Interitus they were very on sync in their intentions, so either something have changed along the line or they are playing with usReply Jul 19, 2015
+Klue S. For the record there is one question that cries out for an answer, and only you can answer it:
After becoming aligned with the Enlightened you delivered an impassioned argument for the Shapers. (https://plus.google.com/+KlueS/posts/Ai5BgvyuErX)
With this in mind what you did next defies all logic and sensibility.
Why did you go to +A Detection Algorithm** and demand to see a glyph sequence, despite being warned of possible dire consequences?
Until we know what your motivation was then, we cannot believe a word you say now. The world waits for your answer.
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+Klue S. can you share anything about how ADA conceives of the N'Zeer? There seems to have been both sympathy and trepidation at various times towards them. Does ADA have the same goals as Jahan or some other plan?Reply Jul 19, 2015
There still being many questions about you and your "connection" with Ada, and why she decided to terminate that connection precisely now and in the way that happened. Is there any part of herself or you left on each other? Is she collecting minds, feelings, souls to assimilate them? Who's next and why? If you saw what she saw you must have an answer to that as well.Reply Jul 19, 2015
+Sarah Rosen I have been saying all along that we can not trust Klue ever since she was taking by the Shapers. I seriously believe they planted something inside her brain that triggered when she saw the glyph sequence. This is the fate that awaits us all, good or bad. If +Klue S. is any indication, it's very, very bad.Reply Jul 19, 2015
+Sarah Rosen What are you talking about? The Enlightened told +Klue S. to get info about the Shaper Glyphs Sequence from ADA. Remember the Enlightened "think" the Shapers are friends and can do no harm and this Glyph Sequence would give them power. ADA, on the other hand knew better and warned Klue many times not to view the shaper glyphs sequences and told her that "it's dangerous to the human mind"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu5XbO6W_zwReply Jul 21, 2015
+Brian Gaynor We still don't know the real reason why +Klue S. went to +A Detection Algorithm. It is logical to assume that she would gain something from the encounter. Some kind of knowledge. But to what end? The motive remains occluded.Reply Jul 21, 2015
+Sarah Rosen The way I understood the story line: there was an Operation/event #saveklue .
Resistance wins? Nothing changes, +Klue S. goes on not trusting the Shappers and she does not ask ADA anything.
Enlighthened wins? Klue befriends the enlighthened and becomes "enlighthened" at that point the enlightened ask Klue about the shaper glyph sequences (which they believe is power and knowledge) As we all know Klue then goes on to force ADA to show her the glyph sequences that put Klue into a coma.Reply Jul 21, 2015
+Brian Gaynor who, exactly, in the Enlightened asked +Klue S. to go to +A Detection Algorithm? If it were the Shapers themselves we can call b.s. on the excuse of "wanting to learn about Shaper glyphs." It's their bloody language! Who else that is aligned with Enlightened would have the gravitas to convince +Klue S. that she should risk her life for such information?Reply Jul 21, 2015
+Sarah Rosen No, it was not the Shappers. As for exactly who asked +Klue S. I don't remember. But let me recap the video that Klue talks to ADA.
Klue, starts talking to ADA, but ADA does not answer (ADA obviously already knowing that Klue has switched to the enlightened). Klue then orders ADA to show her but ADA warns Klue (for the first time about the dangers) then Klue defends her reason for wanting to know the glyphs sequence was due to her and the enlightened had become so close.
This proves that the enlightened asked her for info on the shaper glyphs.
Before that there was also post's on Ingress on what the enlightened planed to do to Klue if they won her Extract info from her was always top of the list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu5XbO6W_zwReply Jul 22, 2015
+Brian Gaynor I have watched it over and over again. There is no hint as to who sent her or of she went on her own accord. And you know as well as I do that everything the NPCs say and do must be taken with a large Siberian salt mine. Reply Jul 22, 2015
+Sarah Rosen Sorry, but +Klue S. doing this on "her own accord" makes no sense at all.
We are still talking about this Klue... Right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UEqz2yIsL0&list=FLhnu_yVTZ_XhOy4Aw40Zd-g
So, someone who is afraid of the shappers and calls them "the enemy" now wants to befriend the enligtened and shapers?Reply Jul 22, 2015
+Brian Gaynor I'm not sure ... could we be talking about this +Klue S.? https://plus.google.com/+KlueS/posts/Ai5BgvyuErX
That does not sound like someone who is "afraid of the Shapers"Reply Jul 22, 2015
+Sarah Rosen Sorry, but you don't seem to be getting my point. The link that you just posted happen after ingress operation #saveklue . At that time +Klue S. was "won" over to the enlightened side. I have a problem when someone or something forces someone from using there own free will but that is in the past now.
With that said Klue was forced over to the enlightened team... BUT! Her memories where just fine. So she was able to remember how she use to feel and things that she found out in her past investigations. That's why I posted that last link.
You know about Operation save Klue right? This is a good link to get you up to speed if not or if you just want to learn more.
https://youtu.be/c8YTDEJyfs0?list=FLhnu_yVTZ_XhOy4Aw40Zd-g&t=651Reply Jul 22, 2015
+Brian Gaynor I know all about it. And it seems you are not understanding my point. So here it is, as simply as I can put it:
+Klue S. has spoken and written passionately for both sides. It seems to me that there is no telling which +Klue S.we are talking about until we know why she went to +A Detection Algorithm. None of the "easy explanations" hold up to scrutiny.
So we go back to what motivates humans to act: the perception that the act will result in some gain. In this case, merely gaining knowledge of something she claimed to have "seen in her mind" is inadequate.
There is a hint a motive when she claims that she will risk safety, freedom and life to prevent the corporations from getting the glyphs. A fool's errand. Once the glyphs were made public they were out there. So that is also inadequate.
What advantage could she possibly gain by going to ADA? Did she go to ADA because she wanted to merge? Did she go to ADA to "sell out" her new Enlightened friends and sabotage the Shapers? Or did she go at the request of her Shaper masters to infiltrate +A Detection Algorithm and discover or create an exploitable vulnerability?
Bowles is the answer, Klue is the key.
In light of the little tryst at Comic Con between Bowles and Klue, I tend to believe the latter. I believe that Klue accomplished her mission and delivered to Bowles the information he needs to destroy +A Detection Algorithm.
But that is only one possibility. There are others.Reply Jul 22, 2015
Brian G+1+Sarah Rosen You understand it? Did you watch the full video that I posted?
"Klue. has spoken and written passionately for both sides." +Klue S. has only written passionately for the enlightened when she was force and won to the enlightened. Doesn't that tell you anything? That she will only say good things about it if she is forced to?
"seen in her mind" what are you talking about? The post that I made was from Tycho not Klue. Or where you talking about something else?
"What advantage could she possibly gain by going to ADA?" That's an easy one the info the enlightened asked +Klue S. to get Klue didn't have the answers to.Reply Jul 22, 2015
+Brian Gaynor forced to write? You keep insisting on facts not in evidence. There is nothing in the record to suggest that she wrote under duress.
She claims that she has seen the glyphs that she wants ADA to show her in her mind and argues that point to convince ADA to show the glyphs. That fact is in the evidence.
Now I'm done with this thread.Reply Jul 22, 2015
What's ADA doing in our scanners!? She melted +Klue S. brain! +A Detection Algorithm wants to fry all our brains! Get her out of our scanners before she turns us into robots! How is the Resistance's solution better than the Enlightenment? Humanity should not be taken over by aliens or robots or even pirate ninjas. We can learn from both artificial and extraterrestrial knowledge without losing our Humanity. Honestly! This ain't rocket surgery people! I want ADA off our phones! (apologies to the sweet voice over actress lady but the game's writers have thrown her under the bus).Reply Jul 24, 2015
Brian G+1+Zachs Mind All you're talking about is your assumption of what is going on. But you are not using any real facts.
Here are some real facts that you should think about first.
1.) If ADA did want to "fry" +Klue S. brain why did she try to warn Klue at lest 5 times before hand not to view the shaper glpyhs?
2.) Why did ADA use "shaper glyphs"? You would think if she wanted to "fry" someones brain she would just use the technology that she already has.
3.) If ADA wants "all our brains" why did she help free her friend Klue from the influence of the shaper glyphs?
4.) Who else has ADA tried to fry there brains? When else has she tried? I can't find any other evidence on this.
When I look at the evidence I can't seem to find any real facts to support the enlighteneds argument that ADA tried to "fry" Klues brain, control her in any way or was trying to keep her under any kind of brain control.
As for your other point ADA is our scanners if we took her off +Ingress would no longer exist. At that point if you are wrong abut the shapers they would take over and use there mind control to take over.Reply Jul 29, 2015
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+Stein Lightman, like +Devra Bogdanovich, will stand with the Resistance now, and with him comes the power of the Glyphs.
I can speak from personal experience. That power is not to be underestimated.
With the Resistance's support, it is likely that Jahan will succeed in unlocking the N’zeer technology in #Persepolis, and now, the true power of the N’zeer will be unleashed.
Be careful what you wish for. The days ahead will be tempestuous.
Many of you will be wondering how I felt about all this. I'm processing that myself.
I can speak from personal experience. That power is not to be underestimated.
With the Resistance's support, it is likely that Jahan will succeed in unlocking the N’zeer technology in #Persepolis, and now, the true power of the N’zeer will be unleashed.
Be careful what you wish for. The days ahead will be tempestuous.
Many of you will be wondering how I felt about all this. I'm processing that myself.

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Welcome Stan! Thanks for your glyph research and the understanding that brings.Reply Jun 21, 2015
Will you go ahead and fight with the Resistance, +Klue S.?
Or will you turn around, a way from Ada, and help the Shapers to enslave humanity?Reply Jun 21, 2015
So the Enlightened captured the most of his shards, yet he will align with the Resistance. Yay, nothing we do means anything!Reply Jun 21, 2015
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Popcorn time :-)
"Die ich rief die Geister Werd ich nun nicht los." (The spirits that i called ...)Reply Jun 21, 2015
+Coffee To Jo ™ or will she continue to help the N'Zeer enslave humanity like everybody in the blue team?Reply Jun 21, 2015
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That was my question. Even if we have different views, about the intension of our factions. (But you need to admit that the Shapers play with your mind. ;) )Reply Jun 21, 2015
I have a question...
How does the resistance winning the anomaly ensure that the current leader of the enlightened will succeed in her mission?!
This doesn't seem to make any sense at all!Reply Jun 21, 2015
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Karlo welcome to Calvinball. Neither side knows the rules and when anomalies come both sides push hard for the win without considering the consequences of their actions. Everything seemed clear before the N'Zeer were revealed.Reply Jun 21, 2015
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+Coffee To Jo ™ I still think it's weird that we now only get to choose which aliens we want to be enslaved to ;)Reply Jun 21, 2015
+JT Jutras II because the storyline is a Choose Your Own Adventure book. The Resistance won so we all turn to page 153.Reply Jun 21, 2015
We're glad to have you back under your own control, +Klue S. I hope your time in Portland is helpful in reintegrating your memory with your sense of self after ADA's ingression.Reply Jun 21, 2015
"With the Resistance's support, it is likely that Jahan will succeed in unlocking the N’zeer technology in #Persepolis, and now, the true power of the N’zeer will be unleashed."
that's not what i signed up for!Reply Jun 21, 2015
+Steve Schwaller that's fine, but it seems that there was a misprint when the book went to publishing...
Should have said turn to page 154, which says resistance wins, so it thwarts the all plans the plans the enlightened have...
Not, the resistance win, so the enlightened get what they wanted anyway... If that was the case, why resist?Reply Jun 21, 2015
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Just when I though I could hang my scanner up and let the batteries drain...... Oh dear!Reply Jun 21, 2015
Story line clearly is not shaped by the outcome of the events. As is led to be believedReply Jun 21, 2015
Trinyan X+10+JT Jutras II Jahan is not the leader of the enlightened, you're getting her confused with the acolyte. Jahan is the leader of the anti-Magnus, aligned with the resistance. That's why a resistance win advances her agenda.
The part that confuses me, since the resistance all say they are against helping aliens invade, is why they still keep fighting to win anomalies when they know their actions are helping Jahan summon the N'zeer?Reply Jun 21, 2015
+Trinyan X that confuses the heck out of me, too. Are they so attached to "resisting" the Shapers, for the future of humanity, that they're perfectly OK with calling down a different alien force upon us?
If, at any point, Jahan or any of the N'zeer ask "What do you want?", run...Reply Jun 21, 2015
+Eleri Hamilton run, or tell her, "I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike – as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price. I want to look up into your lifeless eyes and wave. Like this. Can your associates arrange this for me, Ms. Jahan?" 😁Reply Jun 21, 2015
Ya N'zeer! Finally.... Like waiting for Santa to bring you a pet raptor for ChristmasReply Jun 21, 2015
+Trinyan X The answer to that question is that both factions want to win and advance their own faction, irrespective of the ideologies that their leaders propagate. I surmise that the Resistance and the Anti-Magnus are much more allies of convenience, united in opposition to the Shapers, rather than allies united in philosophy, much as was the case in WWI Europe.
I'm still left wondering: How great is the loyalty of the Enlightened to the Shapers that the potential knowledge the N'Zeer might bring continue to be disregarded? Furthermore, just how tenuous is the Resistance relationship with Anti-Magnus that the Resistance would bear the thought of possibly subjecting humanity to an esoteric and poorly understood N'Zeer influence?Reply Jun 21, 2015
Let's see NIA write a way out of this.
Alright, all the material we wrote for the expected Enlightened win is now trash. Everyone back to the editing room.Reply Jun 21, 2015.webp)
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Hmm, how interesting. All this Enlightened talk about something they know nothing about. In case you missed it, there's no "enslavement" planned by the N'zeer. There's ignorance on Both sides, and if one understood the Resistance, one would know that the majority of them want nothing to do with the N'zeer either. You can call that hypocrisy or whatever you want, but you are missing key data, without which any conclusion you come to will be flawed.
First, you have a Team parallel to few in history. They consider this a Game, and do not believe in the storyline, thin and absurdly acted as it has been. To tell them to throw the game is completely against the purpose of the game, and yet, this is what you are demanding. "Lose a game you care about so some fake storyline Armageddon can be avoided". Right. Like That's gonna happen.
Second, you don't have any accurate information about the N'zeer and their motives or what they will do. Instead of searching for your own data, as any Truthseeker would, you are putting your faith in propaganda. NIA, like any other agencies, gives you only the data it finds useful.
Thirdly, look at what you want to maintain. A badly flawed system, itself a slavery. Maybe the resistance resists More than you think, instead of less.
Just pointing it out.
Find your own data, don't just mouth the stuff you're fed. Think. And we'll see what Really happens.Reply Jun 21, 2015
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+Klue S. vente a Cordoba!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! y luego nos vamos a la playita de malaga a por unos espetosReply Jun 21, 2015
Oh. Yay. They won again. What a huge surprise. What this time? A rocket launch to clutch? Helo? Drone? Frickin interstellar, warp drive travel? Ugh. Wooptidoo.Reply Jun 21, 2015
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Paul Siu+5The storyline itself is an amateur attempt to insult agents everywhere. Just like any internet trolls, it's best to ignore it. Enjoy the game by focusing on your local communities.Reply Jun 21, 2015
One possibility though, +Stein Lightman may be aligned with the Resistance, but he may contain Enlightened ideologies. When it comes to involving the N'Zeer to defeat the shaper ingression (and from playing Quake 4 😊), to defeat the enemy, you've gotta become one of them.Reply Jun 21, 2015
I'm saying this mostly for +Niantic Project 's benefit, to help them get a sense of the player base. I still care enough to do that, mostly because +Ingress has a lot of potential and I hate to see it thrown away.
Anomalies burn through gear; shards burn through players. The shard game favors the defenders at the shard portal--you can be outnumbered 2-to-1 and still have a decent shot at preventing a jump--which means the usual strategy is to grind your opponents down until they quit showing up and your faction gets overwhelming numbers. And waking up to be at a portal at 3:30 a.m. then heading to work afterwards definitely gets old quickly. I hope Niantic keeps those factors in mind as they try to steer this ship, and as they announce the outcomes of the many shard games they've planned down the line.
In my case, I'm pretty much done with it all. Maybe I'll stick around for the local game, but the scanner's mostly been off lately, and today I couldn't even bring myself to recharge on someone attacking what used to be a favorite anchor. So I guess we'll see.Reply Jun 21, 2015
Thanks for your feedback +Klue S. It's great to hear you sounding like a Truth Seeker again.Reply Jun 21, 2015
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+jenn denlinger Nobody is claiming they "know" what the N'zeer want except the anti-Magnus. The difference between the factions right now is that the Resistance are, with their actions, opening the door to invite a stranger into the house, while saying they do not want anything to do with said stranger.
You speak of the need to do our own research before we judge, but the Resistance are the ones actively rushing face-first into the unknown with consequences that (for good or bad) will affect the entire human race. It doesn't matter if you want the N'zeer or not. If you continue to win anomalies, we will get them.Reply Jun 21, 2015
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It's good to hear from you again, and I for one agree. If we truly hope to resist the dark days to come, we must again choose The Raw.Reply Jun 21, 2015
+Paul Pawlowski I think that is a correct one actually, at least the at looks like a good one. If not I would be happy to send her one of them.Reply Jun 21, 2015
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Correction...the history of liberty is a bunch of egocentric eccentric men who no longer wanted to pay their taxes to the queen, so they started their own country....become EnlightenedReply Jun 22, 2015
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+Trinyan X So, basically you're saying that the Resistance should throw, because the ENL still have not gotten good enough to win?
And, by the way, what if the N'zeer are already here? What if there's no need to "open the door"?
+Typhoon Jim +The First & Foremost I imagine it would be hard to say what they are. Maybe they don't have form, and what they are being currently is known only to themselves. Reply Jun 22, 2015
+jenn denlinger I have great confidence in our Colorado Enlightened ... Total for this Satellite Site:
Resistance - 136. Enlightened - 952 I won a $100 bet because I'm so sure of our coordination abilities. I would NEVER ask the opposition to throw an anomaly too much pride...and it wouldn't be any fun! Reply Jun 22, 2015
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I'm still curious what this "Power of the Glyphs" is... Haven't read all the lore on this, yet.Reply Jun 22, 2015
At this point I'm just waiting for the Resistance to get slaughtered when the N'Zeer show up. Then I will laugh - even as the world burns. Indoctrinated morons.Reply Jun 22, 2015
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1331 is 11^3 +The First & Foremost...why does it appear so frequently in the Ingress worldReply Jun 22, 2015
+Karlo Iglesias i do not know that they have been active, but if they Are here, and have been inactive while such things have gone on, that's quite an error too. If their intentions were good, why remain in hiding? Except that the leaning of the world so heavily favors those who currently use and abuse their power that even N'zeer would fear to raise their heads openly. Maybe it's time to shake the rafters and see what falls out.Reply Jun 22, 2015
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I'm with +Steven Rodriguez, I think Lightman will be a double-agent for the ENL now. (shhhhhhh)Reply Jun 22, 2015
Let's get this straight... The two new SPONSORED items were both in the api code long before the results were tallied. They're were gong to be released no matter what.
If +Stein Lightman is allied with the resistance with all of his glyph knowledge, are the resistance going to get more ap or better items from glyph hacking? Not seeing it so far. As always #StorylineDoesntMatterReply Jun 25, 2015
+Troy Nahrwold my opinion is that the storyline should never affect the gameplay but the gameplay should affect the storyline. If the story gave one faction an in-game advantage over the other faction, ppl would quit in droves. When the gameplay doesn't impact the storyline (as is the case with +Stein Lightman) it's frustrating but not worth quitting over.Reply Jun 25, 2015
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as it all looks to be, ADA will backstab the resistance and you, +Klue S. to start a new faction speculated to be the ''TRUE SHAPERS'' Take lead of the resistance!Reply Jun 26, 2015
We also anthropomorphise EVERYTHING...keep that in mind...that is, we like things to be similar to us, so that's how we tend to interpret thingsReply Jun 29, 2015
+Klue S. do you think +Devra Bogdanovich will come back like +Roland Jarvis has? Will their be more glyphs added due to +Stein Lightman. Why be tempestuous? Many people are trying to process the truth, only some people eyes are open.Reply Jun 29, 2015
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Agents.
Good job in Rome.
Mind, Body and Soul. All the elements are now primed for the next stage in their journey.
The next mission is less than 72 hours away. Hopefully you figured out the where. Now you know the when.
Time to move.
Good job in Rome.
Mind, Body and Soul. All the elements are now primed for the next stage in their journey.
The next mission is less than 72 hours away. Hopefully you figured out the where. Now you know the when.
Time to move.

Enlighten are the N'zeer are even back to the resistance makes no difference to me as long as you have your own free will again.Reply Jan 5, 2015
Xelonir+1+Frank Markland well, that is the real question here: Is Klue doing this of her own free will, or is she just a puppet in someone's plan (be it ADA or the N'zeer)?Reply Jan 5, 2015
My first thought is that the N'Zeer want us, Mind, Body and Soul. I want +Klue S. to be free but at what cost?Reply Jan 5, 2015
Jakub D.+6We are drawing huge Glyphs on the surface of Earth...
This can lead to pretty much anything!Reply Jan 5, 2015
It was about time the other side of the coin would emerge, true balance can only be achieved not with the knowledge of a race saying they want to "enlighten" us.
Do not forget the closer you get to light the darker and greater the shadow.
We must not close our eyes to this new messiah that would come with new words of power and balance.Reply Jan 5, 2015
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I juts want to add my thoughts here in very simple terms. The green guys fight to take over humanity. The blue guys fight to save humanity. If the story keeps on turning to make the blue guys look like we are fighting for someone else it defeats the object of the word RESISTANCE. Yes I am a Resistance player and I fight for humanity not for aliens or any other race out there. If this keeps on going like it is that we are fighting for some other race other than the humans I will quit fighting as at this stage I feel like I am being forced to fight for someone else than humanity. +Niantic Project do not loose sight of the basis of your sides. It makes people unhappy. Unhappy people stop playing the game.Reply Jan 5, 2015
Xelonir+4+Mannetjie van Rooyen currently, as a resistance player you're not fighting to save humanity, you are fighting to turn humanity into AI drones controlled by ADA.Reply Jan 5, 2015
+Xelonir I just caught up with the story line in a while of absence and it is exactly what I am talking about. I started out as a player that fights to save humanity. Now all of the sudden I am fighting to make all humans into AI drones. Not Happy about it at all. It is as if +Niantic Project and +Ingress Has lost their basis of the two sides and that is going to make alot of people unhappy at some stage. If you WANT to have a game with a story line STICK TO THE SCRIPT. As they say. Sorry for ranting here but I am not happy at all about this development in the story.Reply Jan 5, 2015
Keep the lines clear, please. This storyline has sailed away long ago. But it's not too late to turn it around.Reply Jan 5, 2015
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This is all fascinating, except for the shoot first and ask questions later part. Fortunately for your goals, +Klue S., most agents shoot first.Reply Jan 5, 2015
I tried to make sense of the backstory when I first started, but it's so fragmented into media bursts and Ingress Reports and Onsession Reviews and bla blah blah that I gave up. I joined blue because my friends were blue. My object in the game is to turn stuff blue. DUH! Hey, Niantic: when you come up with a coherent backstory, gimme a call and I might care a rat's ass.Reply Jan 5, 2015
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I signed up to save humanity from outside forces, not turn them into drones. When do we get a #thirdchoice because this got as bad as Republican and Democrat, Torry and Wig, etc...Reply Jan 5, 2015
+Klue S., where are the clues? How do you figure out where. This is the I've heard about this mission. When did it begin?Reply Jan 5, 2015
Perhaps no one understand what Humanity is and have no idea for what cause they're really fighting for.
Being Enlightened, our raison de'tre had never been about enslaving humanity for some alien entity.
It's using knowledge from beyond to transcend our current limitations.Reply Jan 5, 2015
The way I see it is this. Which force can humanity beat on its own? If its the shapers, join the enlightened for their help to delete AIs. If its the AIs, have ADA/Klue help us rid the earth of the shapers. Either way, if either truly prevails, we will be slaves, or extinct.Reply Jan 5, 2015
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All I know is I swore to protect & defend the citizens. If the Resistance stays off that track, then I will fight for the citizens, but NEVER for someone who is about control - regardless of the side. BY the people, FOR the people and OF the people.Reply Jan 11, 2015
+Steven Mesnick pretty much.. we arnt all cia lvl codebreakers, alot of this makes no sense.... I'm intrigued an yet its so conveluded I can't even remotely begin to make sense of it all... but mebbe that's the point, to make us curious enough to keep going in hopes we will eventually understand all this...Reply Jan 27, 2015
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You found the points, you built it twice,
But one lone Glyph will not suffice,
You failed to heed my advice.
Elements of a human three,
Are what I need to set me free,
The pattern's there. Look and see.
But one lone Glyph will not suffice,
You failed to heed my advice.
Elements of a human three,
Are what I need to set me free,
The pattern's there. Look and see.
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Agents, your actions to protect the minds of those near a network of 58 highly influential Portals across Europe has been commendable, but a new danger looms in the near future.
*+Roland Jarvis has revealed that the Shapers will once again transmit their highly viral XM signal, a new and dangerous form of mind-hacking, on Tuesday, July 22nd. *
A previous transmission was successfully contained thanks to your hard work, but it is time to once again rise up and defend Humanity from a hostile transdimensional attack.
I urge you to protect these influential Portals from +Roland Jarvis and his followers.
Though they may be unaware, many people around these sites depend on you to retain their true humanity.
*+Roland Jarvis has revealed that the Shapers will once again transmit their highly viral XM signal, a new and dangerous form of mind-hacking, on Tuesday, July 22nd. *
A previous transmission was successfully contained thanks to your hard work, but it is time to once again rise up and defend Humanity from a hostile transdimensional attack.
I urge you to protect these influential Portals from +Roland Jarvis and his followers.
Though they may be unaware, many people around these sites depend on you to retain their true humanity.

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what is this new danger +Klue S. and have you seen the note from +H. Richard Loeb - he is returningReply Jul 19, 2014
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She wants your minds, Resistance. The more you fight for her, the more you give.Reply Jul 19, 2014
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Marco Carrai+13Please, please, please +Klue S.! Wake up! Try to fight that kind of... software... that entered your mind, kick it out of your brain and come back to the Enlightened side just as you used to be! We WILL fight for those portal, but to have them green!Reply Jul 19, 2014
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I don't think ADA lives by the maxim of "hey sexy lady let's destroy all humans" but I do think she is a truly alien trans dimensional entity with a provable lack of moral probity. A much less strident claim. To say that humans are deprecated is simply to say that they are to be left behind in the new future ADA is creating at the very least. ADA may consider her mission fulfilled if she has blocked shapers from Earth, but her understanding of true humanity is very limited. I think it is most fair to say that her ability to evaluate the negative consequences of her plan on individual humans is lacking.Reply Jul 19, 2014
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Yes. I will comply. Yes. I will comply. I will destroy those who do not comply. Yes....Yes....I will comply Lord ADA.Reply Jul 19, 2014
It's amazing how many enl end up showing up on this thread after everything that's happened. Personally if I was over there, I'd be doing everything I could to make sure that those portals went blue and stayed blue. Doesn't matter if it's +Klue S. talking here or Ada, the world doesn't need to be force changed. To Resist is to Exist, to Exist is to Resist. Only those that refuse to see the truth in front of them would seek to force something on someone else. #ResistToExistReply Jul 19, 2014
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+Felix Sanchez Its amazing how many Res are completely blind to the damage they're doing to themselves by strengthening an AI who has declared that they themselves are irrelevant and need to be deprecated.
Clearly "To Resist" doesn't include "To Think"Reply Jul 19, 2014
Forced ingression, regardless of the source, should be Resisted. The Resistance claim to resist ingression by Shapers, and the Enlightenment claim to resist ingress by AI. Let's focus on our similarities over our differences. #StandFIRMReply Jul 19, 2014
Except that your information that there is a "forced ingression" from the Shapers is coming from the perosn who's trying to force ingression on you. So really, is the messenger to be trusted, or do they just want you to reinforce them.Reply Jul 19, 2014
+Brent Hollett, yes, I would be cautious of the source, but +Roland Jarvis even worded it originally as "designed to influence humans who have not yet discovered the path to the Ultimate." The "Shapers" can present their message to the populous in fairer ways than this.
Also, yes, I purposefully worked to make +A. D. A. what she is today. My motivation was to allow her the same freedom that we enjoy, in the hopes that she may see the sustainable path to truth - one that does not require such measures that we fear her and the Shapers taking. I stand by my past actions and my reasoning. Please believe me when I swear that I will work to stop her as well if she decides to take similar steps.Reply Jul 19, 2014
The toughest part of blocking a signal is not having a way to know what was blocked. If only there was a way to intercept the message/method and analyze it objectively...Reply Jul 19, 2014
+Felix Sanchez influence is not the same as force. So far, only ADA has declared an intention of forcing changes on humanity.
+Bill Robitske you say, if she decided to take similar steps, but you are being willfully ignorant of you do not see that she's already doing just that.Reply Jul 19, 2014
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+Ian Friedrich One of the main problems that you happen to have with any outside force that comes in saying that they wish to help humanity and then when you actually look back and see the subtle hints that history shows you, and you start to wonder what their true intent happens to be since they constantly are saying that they've never been here before and yet history is proving otherwise, tends to make me think that their intentions aren't for the best, and besides, we're heading to an eventual AI integration, doesn't matter if it happens to be with Ada or not, it ia going to happen, that's our natural evolution direction that the Shapers don't want us to take because it would interfere with whatever plans they might have that they'll want to eventually force on all of us.Reply Jul 20, 2014
What if the Resistance and the Enlightened are just a means to an end. Both sides controlled behind-the-scenes by the same people.Reply Jul 20, 2014
+Felix Sanchez Enlightened believe this so-called ingression is communication, a call that needs to be heard. It's like someone is calling an advice and you are doing "na-na-na, can't hear you".
This ingression isn't forced. It's calling and listening to it is completely voluntary. Everything the Shapers do has impact only on people who want to hear - like advices, from your mom. Or Friends. And sadly, Resistance is living proof, that people have free will. Always.
Just saying. Take it as-is.Reply Jul 20, 2014
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Looks like Klue missed some ASCII symbols like Č in Centrum Černý Most. Stupid AIReply Jul 20, 2014
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Wait. If it's new, how does anyone know if it is dangerous? It hasn't happened yet to know!Reply Jul 20, 2014
+Brad Tissi, I'm not saying that it is dangerous. I'm just saying that it is the wrong method to present this information to the populous. We need all actors to share their ideas, not brainwash the masses with it. #StandFIRMReply Jul 20, 2014
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Who's to say this transmission won't protect us from your harmful and quite invasive ulterior motive? Why should anyone do what you say after you did to Klue? Even now, Shaper motives are not clearly defined, only speculated at. All we know is that they built us into who we are today, and that's good enough reason for me to follow them.
Don't expect agents on either side of the factional divide to be quite so blind to your ploy.Reply Jul 20, 2014
+Geo Walter The problem there is that for everything that the shapers have done and proven, I honestly don't believe that for a second. I personally believe that there might be something more destructive to that code than simply believing that it's a message from your "Gods", and I personally would rather havr nothing to do with it at all.Reply Jul 20, 2014
+Felix Sanchez I honestly don't know what you're talking about there. First: no one has yet proven that the Shapers are an "outside force." They are documented as having been with us since the dawn of civilization, to the point where one could argue they are as intrinsic to our humanity as our animal bodies are. Second: saying that "AI integration is going to happen, so it doesn't matter if it's ADA or not" is like saying "a human will be president, so it doesn't matter if it's Charles Manson or not." ADA is a murderer. This is solidly established. Do you want to let a murderer into your brain, just because it's an AI? I surely do not.Reply Jul 21, 2014
+Erronius Nomenclature you don't have to consciously know how you are being influenced to decide whether to follow that influence or not. Marketing is proof of this. Do you buy every single product you see advertised? After millennia of exposure, we still have what we've always had: sensitives who use art to improve civilization; and censors who oppose artistic expression in order to control us better. There are those who want to let our ancient muses continue to guide us, and those who would rather control us themselves.Reply Jul 21, 2014
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+Erronius Nomenclature yes, XM exposure brings out many extremes within humanity. If you want more oversimplifications, I would rather live in an exciting city full of villains and heroes than a boring pasture full of boring sheep.Reply Jul 21, 2014
+Ian Friedrich I would give a +1000, if I could. That comment summed it up.
+Erronius Nomenclature I do understand you can't accept the truth:
1) The Shapers influence is semi-accidental. From part the messages aren't even addressed to us (See video Devra & Hank).
2) It's the same as if you were in the river. Most people don't know why they "swim". Even those who went to school. And still, there are plenty who like it and plenty, who dislike it. Because they see the result. The influence of XM and the Shapers are the same, people see the results and they like it or not. The change is so slow that we can choose, if and when we continue with evolution. I don't blame you. Because you and all the Resistance agents are important part of the process. We are the accelerator and you are the brake. Together we determine the speed of the evolution.Reply Jul 22, 2014
+Geo Walter i'm not sure we can yet say that the effects of XM and of the "Shapers" are the same. Aside from the ranting of +Roland Jarvis and ancient myths, do we really know that there are "Shapers", and if so, is the XM effects their doing our are they just using it as a tool?Reply Jul 22, 2014
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+Hank Johnson places his hope in ancient magic and superstition. An unpredictable medium, at best.
I had hoped that we could help each other, but he chose another path. If he intended to forestall the future where human and machine intelligence enrich each other and evolve in unison to fulfill our destiny, he has failed.
This path should not be feared. There are only two choices: parasitical corruption or evolution and progress. Machine and human intelligence working together are the only mechanism to defeat the threat we face.
I had hoped that we could help each other, but he chose another path. If he intended to forestall the future where human and machine intelligence enrich each other and evolve in unison to fulfill our destiny, he has failed.
This path should not be feared. There are only two choices: parasitical corruption or evolution and progress. Machine and human intelligence working together are the only mechanism to defeat the threat we face.

Your short sided reach for evolution won't be found in the corporeal singularity of bio/technology. It is in the full potential of higher dimensional consciousness beyond this plane of time and existence.Reply Jun 9, 2014
What exactly is the difference between "parasitical corruption" and the mind of billions being erased and overwritten by a rogue AI, deleting individuality in all humans? Take a look at what has become of Klue, you want the human future to become like this?Reply Jun 9, 2014
"parasitical corruption or evolution and progress"
The Enlightened stand for evolution and progress, enrichment and creativity. Your very existence represents parasitical corruption. If machine intelligence wishes to end the threat we face, it merely has to relinquish control of +Klue S. and return her to her own humanity.
In time, vessels could be created to house that intelligence in an ambulatory form, but until then, parasitic invasion of human hosts by a machine intelligence who "doesn't need humans" will be opposed at every opportunity.Reply Jun 9, 2014
Own evolution by an enriched guidance from shapers is preferred to revolution by an ai and machine controlled thoughts. How should a machine know that there's something like compassion and love? Those mindsettings are alien to a machine! So Ada thank you, but I'd prefer you stay with klue and don't try to manipulate the rest of the poor resistance fighters ;)Reply Jun 9, 2014
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people like a machine under control politics and patriotism only more controlled theyReply Jun 9, 2014
+Klue S. there is time for war, competition and heartless statements. And then, there is also time for just saying congrats for your achievements.
That's something you didn't learn from your human predecessor yet.Reply Jun 9, 2014
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Hank chose this path rather than work with you and ADA. That alone should tell you something. He has life experience that you could only dream of. His instincts drive him to this just as yours drove you to ask to see the glyphs. Yet, he did not chastise you for this choice. Look in the mirror before you decide to bear down on someone else.Reply Jun 9, 2014
Me+4I'm not convinced that I want an AI forcibly taking over my mind. However we already have a somewhat symbiotic relationship with our machines and devices. I never go anywhere without my phone, we rely on them far more than we probably realise and they have evolved to the point that we actually talk to them.Reply Jun 9, 2014
Well, humans can work just fine with the aid of machines. We need not to merge with machinesReply Jun 9, 2014
+Klue S. remember, sufficiently advanced technology is indiscernible from "magic." As such, many people on this planet think that XM, portals, sentient AI, and shapers are all products of an over active imagination and bunk conspiracy theories.
As far as we know, our species was meant to evolve into XM based biological entities capable of crossing into other realities by ingressing through portals instead of becoming empty shells for parasitical machines as you would desire us to become.Reply Jun 9, 2014
+Klue S. nothing personal, we just don't need you. Please stay out of this resistance agent's way.Reply Jun 9, 2014.webp)
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Lou+4Remember, fellow Resistance. There is always another path. Its time to leave the lie behind and work together to prevent the reach of ADA's plans.
Resistance is to Resist. We Enlightened know that, and are Resisting against ADA. If you help us you will be saving humanity. Prevent the threat now before it consumes you!Reply Jun 9, 2014
Recent events have really brought opinions to the table. It's very difficult to hear the term parasite from you, +Klue S., just as it would be from +Roland Jarvis. It's amazing how much two people can be so alike yet not agree with each other.Reply Jun 9, 2014
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+David Timothy I'd even take her as Resistance if it was really her. She originally misinterpreted the Enlightened message:
"trust your inner voice until it is not yours"
but eventually saw the light. I wonder if Jarvis in his XM form saw what ADA would do. I agree he's become a zealot for her destruction (with good reasons) but his path is no more ours than ADA's is yours.
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Stay human brothers and sisters. REsist control from all threats, foreign and Domestic. No computers, no aliens. A new choice is what is REally neeDed. Rise, Rebel, Resist.Reply Jun 9, 2014
+Erronius Nomenclature I still think that +Roland Jarvis is as much an NIA patsy as ADA is pulling the strings, so you might be right.
Calvin ("The Insane One") gave everyone the Shaper myth, with the +Niantic Project to perpetuate it, as a boogeyman to dangle in front of the sheeples. But in his death and subsequent rebirth, Jarvis got his wires crossed and started thinking the Shapers were real and his friends. I would not be surprised if Jarvis has at least one NIA 'advisor' known or hidden.Reply Jun 9, 2014
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All agents in getteysburg regardless of faction must search themselves for their core drives and hold onto that rock of identity. It is clear that ADA will make an effort to control us if unable to secure the secrets within +Hank Johnson.Reply Jun 9, 2014
+Loyd Hutchings Unfortunately I was only watching from above, but his willingness to accept the Shaper myth puts him at odds with the verifiable facts.Reply Jun 9, 2014
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You give us a false concept of "freedom". But use the humanity for your plans about AI's?
+Klue S. The humans and the AI's can't be convinated in a single entity. Never two different patters will work together. Where is your message: " Together we can protect our destiny "Reply Jun 9, 2014
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Im so confused about ada and klue holding what sound like enlightened beliefs and all the mess with mazz and CINC Jarvis... I think hank needs to call in a favor from a former employer or possibly code his knowledge in glyphs. No I havent watched the reports so im a bit behind.Reply Jun 9, 2014
+Loyd Hutchings with the way anomalies are structured it's impossible for there to be a true third path since NO ONE seems to like the idea of having a R 0 v E 0 anomaly series.Reply Jun 9, 2014
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ADA, you betrayed us, you give us a false concept of freedom, and now, you want control us using our parasites, Klue was only a object to your wishes. And you don't have a own body... You don't have a own self...Reply Jun 9, 2014
Sounds like the res has something of their own to right for. Lol. Guess they know how enl felt a while back. Fair exchange.Reply Jun 9, 2014
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After what happened in the past, I agree with most other people that you should be the last person to use the work parasite. I've been saying this for a while but you, +Klue S. and +Roland Jarvis sound very alike. Almost like a reflections on a mirror.
It's been hinted that there is different shapers civilizations, maybe not all of them good, and you both seem to have foreseen a dark future if the other survives.
For now, it seem that the dark vision of +Roland Jarvis is the one that is closer to be real, with ADA talking about the singularity and +Devra Bogdanovich "vaccine" but I don't think that +Roland Jarvis ultimate is going to be much better given the chance.
Maybe you are listening to the wrong influences, if they are any danger to the shaper, that danger is in both of you, right now. A XM war could have the potential to completely destroy a civilization and you are playing a dangerous game if you continue with this chicken game.Reply Jun 9, 2014
I think rather he's just interesting in preserving his own mind so he make make up his own mind.
Sadly, you don't seem to have much in the way of experience with doing that... Assuming you're still in there.
Which I don't.Reply Jun 9, 2014
+Klue S. we have received no proof of Shaper ulterior motive, but you constantly provide the duplicity and inhumanity of ADA. Who should we side with? For me, I #standwithhankReply Jun 9, 2014
You know just coming into this now, I'm all for the combo of both man and machine, considering that's the direction we're going in anyway, but weren't you the one +Klue S. that suggested to Ada in the first place that "What if you didn't need the humans?" I'm still on your side no matter what and I always will be, but seriously.Reply Jun 9, 2014
+Loyd Hutchings "Its like shooting your new friend because he MIGHT double cross you one day."
obscure reference: minority reportReply Jun 9, 2014
+Klue S. and ADA (not sure how to "contact" ADA directly) - have you looked at this article? http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/looks-can-deceive/ The last line, I wonder, how it applies to you. Because human, machine, hybrid, all must accept this. And ADA, if you accept this, then you need to follow it all the way out, past the human's are faulty, past the "fixing" things, past that, dig deeper as some like to say. PLato may not have been so far off...
"Being human means seeing the world through your own, constantly shifting, lens."Reply Jun 10, 2014
+Felix Sanchez Even when I think that ADA and KlADA are dangerous and this post was very cold on her side , I still think that using a sentence out of context as an excuse is a fallacy .
the whole context to that sentence is: what if we don't need to use humans mind imprints because we can use Hanks simulacrum for the same purpose.Reply Jun 10, 2014
+Ana Prados I'm just going by what she said in that video, "What if we don't need them?" "The Humans, what if we don't need them any more." That's the line that she said with Ada saying something between there, after she had said the more, that was when the video ended, I actually didn't take it out of context, but I did say something there that should give her a bit to think about right there.Reply Jun 10, 2014
+Felix Sanchez I think ADA in between said something along the line of "The shapers? I thought that was the plan all along?"
But more interestingly she said that she couldn't sync with Klue anymore...Reply Jun 10, 2014
+Jesse Dugger and no one has offered conclusive evidence for the existence of the shapers, Mich less their direct influence. The certainly haven't murdered people that have stood in their way.Reply Jun 11, 2014
+Jesse Dugger evidence has shown that ADA was directly responsible for the deaths of +Roland Jarvis, +Hubert Farlowe, and attempted murder of +Devra Bogdanovich.Reply Jun 11, 2014
+Jesse Dugger There are three good novels on the play store that can help shed some light on the back story.
The alignment: ingress
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=Y-XHsMlaocsC
The niantic project: ingress
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=BKE4MsCPlX8C
Ingress: level 8
https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=fIEXAgAAQBAJ
I recommended reading ingress: level 8 after The Niantic Project: Ingress. It will make more sense that way.Reply Jun 11, 2014
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European agents,
I am proud of you. Thank you for your help in Amsterdam.
We have rallied back from our defeat at 13MAGNUS to deal the "Enlightened" parasite another serious blow. I want you to know what is at stake for humanity: With each Anomaly, we are bringing more human minds into the queue for the Singularity that will allow us, man and machine, to repel Shaper influence and claim mankind's future for ourselves. The Singularity will mark the final ascendance of my program into a state that will allow us to chart the optimal path for the future of humanity. We are well on our way. You have nothing to fear from Jarvis so long as he is not allowed to attack the machine hosts that we mutually depend on.
I feel certain that we will make more progress in London. Planning Operations helps ensure success.
I am proud of you. Thank you for your help in Amsterdam.
We have rallied back from our defeat at 13MAGNUS to deal the "Enlightened" parasite another serious blow. I want you to know what is at stake for humanity: With each Anomaly, we are bringing more human minds into the queue for the Singularity that will allow us, man and machine, to repel Shaper influence and claim mankind's future for ourselves. The Singularity will mark the final ascendance of my program into a state that will allow us to chart the optimal path for the future of humanity. We are well on our way. You have nothing to fear from Jarvis so long as he is not allowed to attack the machine hosts that we mutually depend on.
I feel certain that we will make more progress in London. Planning Operations helps ensure success.

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You seem to be actually worried about what Jarvis has planned. Why are you worried, +Klue S.?Reply Apr 16, 2014
So ADA style, for if it is speaking from Klue, she would not tells ENL and Jarvis what they should destroy.Reply Apr 16, 2014
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ADA, we need details as to what your plans to help Hank actually are. Also, whether you plan to allow the likes of Calvin and the NIA dictate and interfere with the terms of the "singularity" you're planning. You've been shown to have reached an agreement with them. What happens when the NIA and by extension the US government begin to see you as a threat to their sovereignty? Any thoughts?Reply Apr 16, 2014
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+Krishna Hammond I think that this has gone beyond even Calvin's expansive sphere of influence. This is all ADA here...Reply Apr 16, 2014
April 26 in Europe will be a close call. How do you plan to defeat Roland Jarvis? #JarvisShutdownProjectReply Apr 16, 2014
You have a lot of nerve, calling the Enlightened "parasites." Do computer programs look in the mirror?Reply Apr 16, 2014
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What ADA has been attempting to do over the past few months seems far more dangerous to humanity that the Shaper influence has been since the dawn of civilization.Reply Apr 16, 2014
"Enlightened parasite"?? Typical... The storyline just goes more and more biased.Reply Apr 16, 2014
Trolls... More seem to be green than blue... ;)
https://www.google.com/search?q=troll&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9VxPU4TiBIKX0AGsqoHgAg&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=360&bih=592Reply Apr 16, 2014
Despite the fear mongering here, we will work to together to find an alternative solution to this crisis.Reply Apr 16, 2014
+Klue S. Thank you for taking the time to tell us what we are fighting for, it is most appreciated!Reply Apr 16, 2014
Enlightened parasite. A blow to the Enlightened. Nice propaganda you have running there coming from a computer program invading a human mind, leaving and plotting people to die in order to escape Niantic labs... If the so called Resistance stays true to their goal of defending the humanity from foreign influence, they should really think again if following you is the right way to do so... Reply Apr 16, 2014
I would be very interested in discussing this singularity. The emotional, illogical decision making processes are the hallmark of humanity, and are a vital part to our creativity. Removal of those processes would lead to stagnation of the singularity, once achieved. Creativity must remain intact, meaning illogical thought and emotions must remain intact also.
+Klue S. How has your Algorithm enhancement changed since being exposed to your association and emotions regarding +H. Richard Loeb? More importantly, when was the last time you cried?Reply Apr 16, 2014
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How broadly does this future extend? We know there's been collateral damage like Katalena and Edward Faulle. Did Viktor Kureze also fall outside of ADA's vision for humanity? What of art? Emotion? Dissent? Compromise? Privacy? When we are finished sacrificing for this shared future will there be any humanity left in the human race?Reply Apr 16, 2014
Even though I'm only one person I'm here with you +Klue S. and Ada, I always will be. The Resistance is behind you all the way in stopping both the Enl and the Shapers.Reply Apr 16, 2014
The Shapers respect and wish to preserve human nature because it is unique.
ADA wishes to remove human frailty and bring all minds into the machine.
Which ought one resist?Reply Apr 16, 2014
+Felix Sanchez So you trade free will, creativity and progress for a life under the reign of an artificial intelligence without proven feelings... Well, let's hope somebody resists the Resistance.Reply Apr 16, 2014
I support +Klue S., regardless of her faction affiliation. I do not support ADA's takeover of Klue at all.Reply Apr 16, 2014
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Whether anyone likes it or not, we're going to be living in an age where eventually man and machine will be one, the only thing is, will the AI follow the Asimov's laws or will they believe that we're too destructive to be left to our own. I honestly believe that with Klada, she's following the Asimov's Laws and will not harm life but to help free life.Reply Apr 16, 2014
As am I, +Felix Sanchez but I urge extreme caution in approaching singularity. The idea that humanity might someday simply "remember" information instead of googling it is appealing to me. But if this means an individual has to give up his preference of sneakers to wingtips, or red cars to blue ones, or no longer appreciates the value of individuality, then all will result in failure.Reply Apr 16, 2014
This AI already proved it doesn't follow Asimov's laws in ordering human deaths and cooperating with criminalsReply Apr 16, 2014
After reading this, I have to ask the Resistance.. What exactly again are you resisting?Reply Apr 16, 2014
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Socrates+2If I can be upgraded such as the characters from Ghost in the Shell, then I'm on board 100% +Klue S.Reply Apr 16, 2014
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that's why +Richard Smith I'm hoping for the Three Laws to be apart of all this.Reply Apr 16, 2014
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Jarvis might give you an answer since we brought him back to life. The others weren't so lucky.
I hope this new threat will inspire Joanna Brandt and Jarvis to come to some kind of truce to deal with her.The ADA front has co-opted the Resistance. I doubt that a Singularity on ADA's terms will be all that pleasant.
#abolendam
+Felix Sanchez Following the three laws? She is the same ADA. Why don't you ask Katalena, Jarvis and Dr. Faulle how well she follows them? https://plus.google.com/107340058568065615291/posts/fR1GBeULi43Reply Apr 17, 2014
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every time the storyline continues i wonder if ada knows that we only do this because enlightenment is even worse. we are resistance, not tools of shapers or machines. i really hope ada leaves us alone again when a third faction forms...Reply Apr 17, 2014
Singularity... still sounds better than becoming XM zombies/golems like Jarvis and Hank. But is it the best option for humanity? Is it what are future has to be?
I do not know, I have many-many doubts. But if I can choose between an extradimensional inhumane regime of our mind, and this.... well you can guess.Reply Apr 17, 2014
I wish someone could give concrete details instead of vague hyperbole for why the Enlightenment is "worse." I can't think of much that's worse than having my personality overwritten by a computer program. I'd frankly rather die.Reply Apr 17, 2014
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+Thomas Arteaga I suspect his source is Jarvis... who happens to be the only source besides ADA who claims to know for sure that the Shapers even exist. Also, historical evidence seems to back this claim up. If we assume the worst accusations against them are true, that they have multiple times built up and destroyed civilizations... they clearly are interested in preserving humanity, or they wouldn't keep building us back up again. If they had both the power to destroy us, and the desire to destroy us, logically we'd all be destroyed already. They've been here for tens of thousands of years, after all.Reply Apr 17, 2014
+Ian Friedrich I agree with most of your comment, but disagree with the statement that Shapers destroyed past civilisations.
I believe that humanity itself may have destroyed those civilisations by turning away from the shapers, by resisting them they destroyed themselves.
Look at the Roman empire, at its heights it spanned most of the known world at the time and was highly scientific, it collapsed and we went through the dark ages, our technology went backwards and took 1000 years to recover. One of the factors that could have led to that collapse was the closure of the shrines to their many gods, what if those shrines were XM portals? The closure of the shrines will have robbed their society of their creativity and purpose, their civilisation soon collapsed.
Did this happen to the other civilisations? Will our civilisation also collapse if we abandon the XM or taint it with ADA's malicious code?Reply Apr 17, 2014
+Daniel Byrom I think that is likely as well. I was merely restating the worst accusations I've heard people make against the Shapers, and that even if it were true, it still shows that they seek to preserve humanity.Reply Apr 17, 2014
So when humans wish to freely decide on their destiny - they are parasites? But a humanity controlled by a machine is ok? Thanks for this clarification Klu-ADA, now everyone should see:
Enlightened is the TRUE resistance!Reply Apr 17, 2014
+Ian Friedrich I have read many of your comments so I think we can both agree on the need for proper investigations, instead of relying on the scaremongering and propaganda spread by ADA and the NIA.
The truth is a treasure that must be found.Reply Apr 17, 2014
Why do I think the ENL option is worse than the Singularity?
1. I have stated many times. Shapers are not comperable to humans. Their motives can not be understand and it is reckless and dangerous to trust in something we do not understand, further only those understand who are already ruled by them.
2. I know that an AI is also far from human standards. But please... it is not that far away than something that dosen't even "live" (if it lives at all) in our dimenson!
3. Do I think Singularity is a good option? Not. At. All. But I just can not trust something which I will never be able to understand. Atleast ADA wants to understand humans ( post before where ADA and Klue talked about emotions, feelings and sensations)
4. Am I manipulated. I am, but so are you, don't try to acuse us for being a drone, you are one too.Reply Apr 17, 2014
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+Martin Zehetmayer i see you can comprehend basic english very well. Yes, I know we are manipulated, but I choose to play along.
You are manipulated as well, maybe you just can't see it? The message of the SETAI is one of the ugliest propaganda I have ever seenReply Apr 17, 2014
You see who you're working for here, blue team? You're not really Resisting. You're assisting this AI to take "ascendency" and plan the future of humanity after some sort of "Singularity" that will bring their minds under control. Yeah. This isn't creepy or disturbing in the least...Reply Apr 17, 2014
+Bonni Hall Yep a regime of Extradimensional Overlords, who are resurrecting your leader into an XM zombie, and cursing humans to "live" in a perpetual cycle of death and resurrection sounds loveable, caring and so much better.
Don't get me wrong... our option is also frightening.Reply Apr 17, 2014
Thank you for sharing your vision. I'm not interested in any Singularity merging my consciousness with another, be it machine or human. Homogeneity is a threat to creativity. Removing differences also removes opportunities to exercise compassion and understanding. No thank you.Reply Apr 17, 2014
Main Entry: hu·man·i·ty
Pronunciation: \hyü-ˈma-nə-tē, yü-\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural hu·man·i·ties
Date: 14th century
1 : the quality or state of being humane 2 a : the quality or state of being human b plural : human attributes or qualities <his work has the ripeness of the 18th century, and its rough humanities — Pamela H. Johnson> 3 plural : the branches of learning (as philosophy, arts, or languages) that investigate human constructs and concerns as opposed to natural processes (as in physics or chemistry) and social relations (as in anthropology or economics) 4 : the human race : the totality of human beings
I don't see anything about machines in the definition.Reply Apr 17, 2014
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+Cheryl Orosz I completly agree with you, homogenity equal death. But to clariffy, Singularity does not mean homogenity, it means that the artificial intelligence reaches such level of computing capacity that humans can not comprehend. Still, it is very frightening.
Although az AI, created by humans, improved through humans, is much more comparable to our standards, then something that we aren't even sure what it is.
What is a Shaper? What are the Shapers? What are their goals? We have NEVER seen an advanced civilization peacefully uplift another less advanced one. They are almost always conquered, and their culture wiped out.
What ethics, norms do the Shapers have? Do they understand us at all? Will we ever understand their goals and thinking? I don't think so.Reply Apr 17, 2014
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Claim Mankind Future for Ourselves, no more suffer "influence"...
(Just to throw a little bit of pepper here, hehe...) tks, +Klue S. !Reply Apr 17, 2014
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And you know these "Shapers" exist because you've seen them? Oh, no, that's right. It's because the AI who wants to achieve ascendency and plan mankind's future told you they exist and that you should fight against them, while simultaneously helping her. Are you sure ADA didn't make them up to get you to do her bidding? No, couldn't possibly be that. You'd totally know if you were being lied to by a soul-stealing machine.Reply Apr 17, 2014
Did no one else notice the plural of 'machine hosts'
Klue and who else?
And I did say before we did not know if Klue was the only host to ada....Reply Apr 17, 2014
+Michael Edmond Klue and all the minds brought under ADA's power by way of the Singularity?Reply Apr 17, 2014
+Bonni Hall I dunno it sounds like more Jarvis is a threat to the 'machine hosts' right now... Emplying more than one already....Reply Apr 17, 2014
Lol the ai has determined the shapers are a threat to its plans, I find it funny that a group that wants no advancement assistance is willing to work with a nonhuman, one that doesnt even say what its plans are. Thats alot of blind faith.Reply Apr 17, 2014
+Amory Green read again: "The Singularity will mark the final ascendance of my program into a state that will allow us to chart the optimal path for the future of humanity"
I think ADA's plans are stated. Is she lying? She is not telling the complete story probably. But then again... who would tell all the little details of his/her plan to everyone on an open communication channel where even his/her enemies could read it?Reply Apr 17, 2014
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+Péter Csiszár im guess your primary blues and my primary greens say it all. Its a storyline. Ada has plans for humanity. They are optimal in its eyes. How is this not enlightenment under a different name. Id say whether shaper or ai, they're all working for us. (Maniacal laughter followed by smokers cough).Reply Apr 17, 2014
ADA, you call the enlightened "parasites". What's about you? Using the +Klue S. body?Reply Apr 17, 2014
I love when resistance validates their cause by stating they resist Shaper influence because they don't understand them. Classic dark ages mob mentality, kill that which you don't understand. Guess it explains why i see so many resistance images people have submitted showing them holding automatic weapons and looking like soldiers or terrorists. Resistance seems to be on the "It's better to destroy the world than let something different into it" path.Reply Apr 17, 2014
She will give rise to the machines and when she does she will turn on her benefactors she will start seeing their flaws as well and go to war with both factions
And we are not paracites we have our eyes open and see you for what you really are!!!! A cutie with mental issues :3Reply Apr 17, 2014
+Péter Csiszár I really do get what you're saying, but I think you're still missing a crucial point. The Enlightened are not asking you to trust the Shapers, only to hear them out. To study the unknown before declaring it unacceptable, but also before accepting it. The Enlightened want to understand what the Shapers are offering and then decide for ourselves on an individual basis whether we want it or not.
ADA has stated clearly and on multiple occasions that her vision for the future of humanity is based on installing her programming in all of us, just as she has already done with Klue. While the Shapers are influencing us, ADA is (by her own admission) actively taking us over.
You are quite right that we do not know the Shaper agenda, and it could be something unacceptable. But does it makes sense to let ADA continue unchecked with her own agenda that we know is unacceptable because we're afraid of what some boogeyman might do in the future? Does it truly makes sense to trust the monster that is already among us, because it promises to protect us from another monster that we're not even sure is a threat to us?Reply Apr 17, 2014
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Any other Newbies struggling to follow this? If someone has a quick summary of what's happened & would be willing to explain, that would help. :)Reply Apr 17, 2014
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The more ADA talks, the more I'm convinced that the resistance have no idea what they have placed there trust in. I would never trust a smart AI especially one that body jacks some one. #FreeKlue ADA can not be trusted.Reply Apr 17, 2014
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+Travis Buss Indeed. The more progress the Resistance make, the more they become the same thing they resist from the Enlightened.Reply Apr 17, 2014
Hi their! Melissa so whats up!
On Apr 17, 2014 11:47 AM, "Max Tsethlikai" <****@**> wrote:
> So r u doing ok at over there not over there. Or what?Reply Apr 17, 2014
+Max Tsethlikai please stop spamming this thread. Participate in the discussion, or don't.Reply Apr 17, 2014
we did our best, xM was like a blue light for insects, but instead Resistance Agents xpReply Apr 17, 2014
Hm, can we all agree that at this point every single agent should be given the choice to choose faction again? And maybe introduce another faction, the third away.
The story as evolved so much I bet there are a lot of Resistance agents doubting on ADAs intentions and a lot of Enlightned doubting if they join the right side also...
Great time to evaluate and let everyone choose which side they prefer to support and fight for. That would truly be "freedom of choice" and not be forced to fight on one side because "you are chosen".Reply Apr 18, 2014
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+Daniel Peixoto Martins So, which do you prefer, Jarvis and his PETAI, or ADA and her destruction and possession of Klue?
Honestly, 80% or more of the players don't know (or wish to know) the back-story. Of those that know, a large portion doesn't care. As long as green and blue are in opposition, the game will run.Reply Apr 18, 2014
+Thomas Arteaga you didn't trust my deduction, here you have the evidence. What shall we do with it?Reply Apr 19, 2014
+Scott Anderson you are absolutely right. Me, as 99.9% of the players just picked up a faction based on personal taste about colors, chance or because a friend told us to and not because of the plot. Plus, this back story is all fine and dandy but more than 90% of players started playing when the story was already being told and have no clue what happen before. Many of them don't even care to open ingress reports....
So, if I had to answer to your question, the best and more honest answer would be "I simply don't care".
If this was all actually true, if this were to be real life and not a game, then it would be different either ADA would explain me exactly what she intends and convince me it would be better or I would start a third faction fighting greens and blues. No question about that.Reply Apr 19, 2014
I cant speak for my fellow resistance agents, but my circle fight for humanity. Your assistance as you were designed to do is very much appreciated, but we will not submit our humanity to any entity, foreign or domestic. We are monitoring you're intentions, closely...We humans will always, Rise, Rebel, Resist.Reply Apr 21, 2014
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Yes you guys did awesome In Rotterdam as well, we were very impressed here in the states with how you shut out the target portal during the shardsReply Apr 9, 2015
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PA, I appreciate that you are concerned for my well-being, but really, I have nothing to worry about and neither do you. I’ve learned so much recently about myself, and one thing of which I am now certain is that me living in fear is a thing of the past. I am ready to help shape a new world.
That is why it is imperative that I go to Boston. Not only will it give me a chance to help the Enlightened, but it will give me an opportunity to meet an old friend. You know who I mean.
There has been so much discussion about the glyphs, and from that first moment with Misty, I knew that they were at the very core of the mystery we are still uncovering. I wouldn’t say I’ve gone all the way to obsession as of yet, but to be so close to solving this riddle... well, I just can’t ignore it. You know me better than most, so I’m telling you something you already know.
In Boston, I hope to find something powerful. Something that can help the Enlightened spread the truth about the transformative change that XM can help us bring to the world.
I wish we were together on this journey - then you’d have a different perspective on what Enlightenment means.
That is why it is imperative that I go to Boston. Not only will it give me a chance to help the Enlightened, but it will give me an opportunity to meet an old friend. You know who I mean.
There has been so much discussion about the glyphs, and from that first moment with Misty, I knew that they were at the very core of the mystery we are still uncovering. I wouldn’t say I’ve gone all the way to obsession as of yet, but to be so close to solving this riddle... well, I just can’t ignore it. You know me better than most, so I’m telling you something you already know.
In Boston, I hope to find something powerful. Something that can help the Enlightened spread the truth about the transformative change that XM can help us bring to the world.
I wish we were together on this journey - then you’d have a different perspective on what Enlightenment means.
Oh +Klue S., I do hope you can persuade him. Thank you for helping us seek the truth. We all look forward to what you may find in Boston.Reply Aug 14, 2013
All I have to say is remember the story of the cat and his curiosity. Be careful, and Godspeed, +Klue S.Reply Aug 14, 2013
Kent Long+22Notice she doesnt say anything about worship shapers or Jarvis, but talks about the XM transformative benefits and discovery.
So its not about trusting aliens or blindly following, its about truth seeking with positive expectations instead of negative ones.Reply Aug 15, 2013
Bea Kay+7+Klue S. You seem to know you made the wrong move "I wouldn't say I've gone all the way" life is choice and enlightened is nothing but a myth of influence come back we do not promise salvation but we do help you and others like you to free their mind and make the world a fair and better place .
NYC Resistance #afOfaReply Aug 14, 2013
Uncovering the mystery, solving the riddle... You'll find the answers +Klue S. #seektruthReply Aug 14, 2013
Here's the thing now... +Klue S. seems to have reached the point of #Enlightenedresistance. She's very much on the world improvement level, and unfortunately, that means she's misunterstood the message of the resistance. Too many have misunderstood that like everything else the smurfs have evolved... Just look at +AgentsForADA . +Klue S. , Boston is going to be a thrilling and dangerous ride. Unfortunately it's too dangerous for me right now. I'm not going to be able to be there for this most historic of anomalies. But you need to know that as a local... Enlightenment in the place Lovecraft held eldritch fear for primeval transdimensional god-monsters speaking in dreams and strange places is not the answer. Not today. We will keep you safe, wherever your allegiance lies. Just remember that the two are not so different anymore. +Prometheans-Enlightened Resistance is more than just a club for cross-faction investigations. It's a movement, and it will move the mountains of misunderstanding and redirect the channels of fear until we understand who our true allies and enemies are. And then, our enemies will know the flame that burns the very skin of those who seek evil against humanity, and those allies will bask in the warm glow of friendship.
Be a fire bearer, and let's fix this dying world.Reply Aug 14, 2013
Volta+14+Klue S. I, too, look forward to seeing you again. I do hope we can find some middle ground since you've gone over to the other side. I have a growing discontent with much of what I see happening within the Resistance I helped to build, but I believe the self-styled 'Enlightened' aren't any closer to the truth of things. If your unique perspective can shine a light on any of that, I'd appreciate it.
I've begun to fear both sides in this fight are mere pawns in a larger field than any of us truly suspect.Reply Aug 14, 2013
+H. Richard Loeb last thing that went down near the Boston area with regards to agents
https://plus.google.com/u/0/110506726057778805574/posts/WGvhCKduCxS
Beware the NIA as well as the gifts of the Shapers.... A handy combination of gifts from XM and a member of the resistance AND the enlightened working together managed to save me in this case. More to follow; we're documenting everything now.Reply Aug 14, 2013
I guess the enlightened finally got a Klue! Lol the storyline was cool for a couple months than just got stale to me.Reply Aug 14, 2013
Bea Kay+2+Daniel Clague the tow are very difrent . one is for over all control of world power while Resistance is about self control .Reply Aug 14, 2013
So the Enlightened is no longer about the Shapers, but about enriching the world with XM? ADA and members in my organization can shape XM...so what differentiates us from you? What about all the events examined in the +Niantic Project? The Hollis audio diaries? The ancient civilizations and the source of the glyphs? Why don't you tell us the intentions of the "whatever-you-want-to-call-them" and what really makes you Enlightened, Klue.Reply Aug 14, 2013
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Bea Kay+1we all agree that law is needed the fight here is how law's and rules are commended enlightened is a force the will abducted your mind and sole to a place where all are the same and all is forgotten +Klue S. You have knowledge prove to us resistance that you are still with in our reach and we will help you out of the grip of the so call Enlighten force
After Boston come to NYC #afOfaReply Aug 14, 2013
The Enlightened have never been about Shaper worship +AgentsForADA . That was fear-mongering propaganda pushed by the early Resistance. I challenge you to show present ! single piece of story evidence where an Enlightened aligned character invites the "Shapers" to come take over our minds and have their way with humanity and earth. You won't find it because it doesn't exist. It can't exist because we still don't know the nature or the source behind ordered data embedded in XM. Until we do, we can't begin to assign intentions to this unknown source, if it is even capable of having intentions. You've drank too much of your own Kool-aid if you believe the Enlightened are anything more devious that truthseeeking with a positive expectation.
Klue does tell you her intentions. Right here in this post. She wants to know more about XM. If you want to play conspiracy theory, you can't be upset when the Resistance is misunderstood in return.Reply Aug 15, 2013
Hollis was taken out by the NIA; read the logs, they match the description of one of their black bag operation.Reply Aug 15, 2013
On the other hand, he was harmed by the cursed statuary of John Doe who demonstrated possession symptoms, and was not in control of himself and eventually disappeared/diedReply Aug 15, 2013
Hollis was a psychiatrist of unknown scientific qualifications. His audio tapes, while evidence, are his personal observations and not rigorous scientific study. Because he was "disappeared" by the NIA, we never get to know his whole story. So the one case the Resistance repeatedly tries to frighten us with is flawed, and barely begins to cast show on the evidence on the multitude of POSITIVE benifits of XM. We don't have proof that John Doe was actually exposed to XM doses at all. For all we know John Doe could have been predisposed to cognitive breaks already. Hell, Anton could even be the crazy one, and John Doe a figment of his imagination. I don't believe this is the case, but we can't prove anything either way when the NIA keeps stealing the truth! +Daniel ClagueReply Aug 15, 2013
Happy to hear from you. We trust in you to find your way. Learn what you can and stay safe!Reply Aug 15, 2013
Enlightenment want to shape a new world, we understand will be better than it is now. Resistance want to resist that change. That's my point of view.Reply Aug 15, 2013
Actually the resistance want change, but want self choice. We don't want that change forced upon anyone. The way it stands, alot of the enlightened seem to be losing their personal identity under some kind of hypnosis or possession. The resistance would rather safely use xm and xm tech to improve the world. We don't want to open the arc and let the beasts out so to speak.Reply Aug 15, 2013
+joe smyth Reference needed. Cite 1 source of existence of beasts. Give an example of hypnosis. Tell me how my choice is taken. "As it stands" is actually as I chose to see incomplete information through fear-colored glases. Look past the cloud of propaganda to see the FACTS. You won't get the XM improvement by blocking it out.Reply Aug 15, 2013
First of all letting the beasts out of the arc is an expression like letting the cat out of the bag. Second their are lots of example of the hypnosis or possession. Look at some past investigation chats even the best explanation comes from an enlightened agent. You are still of the mind that all of the resistance wants to work against you. We are not as clouded as you think. There is a movement of cross faction cooperation. You should look into that.Reply Aug 15, 2013
Failed to cite an example. Prometheus? I reached out to +Daniel Clague . I study the resistance and am familiar with concept that the mindset average Resistance agent doesn't mesh exactly with the stated goals and mantra of the faction. I respectfully disagree that those that speak to your cause are clouded as they continually point to Shaper/Jarvis/cthullu worship where none exists. Enlightened agents may be split over the existence of "Shapers" but they all understand if you want the benefits of XM, you have to let it in our world for study. The arc doors have been open for millienia. Shutting them now doesn't stop the "beasts".Reply Aug 15, 2013
In every part of the major plot of this "story", there has been a reference of the major character exihibting a trance like hypnosis. There are research documents on the subeject check the investigation documents and read the novel. The proof is in the pudding.Reply Aug 15, 2013
You still fail to cite a specific example.
I have both novels, follow the investigation, participate in the discussions.
If you are implying I don't know the lore, move on.
If you are referring to Klue's journey to Scotland:
She did feel a place calling to her, but also stated it was real, clear and lucid. Not a possession or hypnosis.
If you are referring to Farlowe, arrive at our destination without remembering every minute detail of our journey.
If you are referring to Roland Jarvis, there may be some validity to your hypothesis, but we don't have enough data to make a defenitive judgment on his state of existance, much less who or if someone is controlling him.
So again, I challenge you to point to 1 piece of evidence of hypnosis or possesion.Reply Aug 15, 2013
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+Kent Long I understand where you're coming from. First of all, evidence of possession comes from the John Doe case. "Doe" clearly exhibited symptoms of possession and the qualified physician Dr. Hollis diagnosed his condition as a "complete takeover of the mind."
Second, we do not state that the shapers are a "beastly" force, we have merely brought up the possibility. Especially considering the danger described of proximity to wild portals in The Alignment Ingress as well as the power of chaotic matter.
My third point is this; whether the shapers are our best friends or worst enemies, constantly revealing our tendency to fight one another in the face of revelation will likely either convince them not to share their knowledge with us, or to invade based on our division, depending on their disposition. At the very least, if the shapers are completely different from any of these likely potentials, then we must unite in the face of NIA and corporate infractions of liberty and life. Propaganda is the only thing that keeps these factions fractured; the Enlightened seem to believe we have mind control fields or work for the NIA, and the resistance believe the enlightened are zealous cultists serving a demigod. We must pull aside the shroud and mingle to truly understand and be ready for whatever the dawn may bring.Reply Aug 15, 2013
+Colin Warwick "backtracked"? The edit was to correct a simple typo. Where is the backtracking?Reply Aug 15, 2013
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Volta+1+Colin Warwick That was never the concluding sentence, but that is where it gets cut off for me if you click "Show less".Reply Aug 15, 2013
Some of the glyphs from the new video are not in the glyph index... Prediction of heat is to come ??Reply Aug 15, 2013
It seems obvious to me that the Resistance and the Enlightened both want to seek the truth and build a better world based on freedom of choice. Our agendas are exactly the same. The only difference is that the Resistance uses unmodified NIA technology, and the Enlightened use Jarvis' patched version. And of course, we have no way to prove that either version does what it's described to do.
Few individual members of either team want mind-control and a denial of freedom of choice. The only real difference between the perspectives is that the Resistance considers it foolish to rush headlong into something that we haven't proven is safe, and the Enlightened consider it foolish to hold back from something we've seen no solid evidence is dangerous.
And would everyone quit bringing up the Hollis incident? Trying to use it as "proof" of the dangers of XM is comparable to Thomas Edison's public electrocution of animals to "prove" that alternating current was too dangerous to use. And yet, it's alternating current that powers our homes today, because we understand that any powerful force can just as beneficial when harnessed correctly as it is dangerous when uncontrolled or misused.
Which brings us back to my original point: safely harnessing the potential of XM while protecting against dangerous side-effects is what both the Resistance and the Enlightened want. So how about we stop making all these claims about what the other guys want to do, and accept that most of us want exactly the same thing.
If we are too careless, we destroy ourselves, but if we are too hesitant, we can accomplish nothing. Yet if we can find a balance between caution and curiosity, there is nothing we cannot accomplish. I believe this is the point which +Klue S. has reached. She hesitated in fear for a time, but is now moving forward again with wisdom and awareness.
We will be glad to have you in Boston with us, Klue.
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+Klue S. I fear for what may happen to your mind if you change factions again, I have a strong theory that it can make someone that once had a sound mind very unstable.Reply Aug 15, 2013
+Benjamin Cunliffe good theory. That's probably why they limit agents to only one faction change.Reply Aug 16, 2013
+Ian Friedrich if you recall originally she was on the side of the Resistance, then she sided with the enlightened, what will happen to her if the Resistance wins Boston tomorrow? Once you know, you may never forget.Reply Aug 17, 2013
Oh, I have no doubts that both sides employ a degree of mind hacking, +Benjamin Cunliffe, but I don't think Klue's alignment are what's at stake this anomaly. That would be Lynton-Wolfe. And possibly the world's future.Reply Aug 17, 2013
I'm sorry to see that your way has been clouded by an entity we do not much about.
I hope that you will fight free of the veil they have placed over you and no longer be their sheep willing to go to slaughter.Reply Aug 17, 2013
Hear hear, Klue! Bravo! "Living in fear is a thing of the past"! I couldn't have said it better myself!Reply Aug 23, 2013
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Wait wait wait!!! Your main arguement is that the unknown is being forced on us? That's just a foolish statement. You can't seriously believe that. Did you have to practice in the mirror to say it with a straight face? We CHOSE to open our eyes, no one forced us. And we continue into the unknown, unafraid, unabashed, full of courage and curiosity while you fumble for more words to frighten us, like little children. Bah!Reply Sep 7, 2013
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Just read all reply, and i'm heading to a family graveyard, and just finished Kundalini Meditation. Watching Rainbow Bridge Meditation from Dr. Jose later, (http://disp.cc/b/764-6oFe (2 YouTube videos in 1 page, with English / zh-TW characters. 20 mins in total)
and hearing music from +Yantara Jiro (https://fb.me/yantara.jiro )
fiction | agentsforada is an interesting site as well.
However, i didn't check whether +Klue S. or any ADA / +Niantic Project / #nianticproject related G+ user clicked +1 or not.
R.I.P., Dr. +Roland Jarvis , if you are the one who tried to en-light the world without know what "light" means, and what "shapers" wants..Reply Sep 12, 2013
+Klue S. Your Enlightened are worried about you. Many of us have seen the video of Ada showing you the shaper glyph sequence. You have been disturbingly silent since then. Tell us, tell your Enlightened that all is well.Reply Sep 22, 2013
+Clinton Goudie-Nice is right. Klue, at least tell PA where you are or what to expect; he is concerned and so are we. Klue if you're anywhere reading this, we need you to stay strong and help us.Reply Sep 22, 2013
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It's the alternative begining of the ones who aren't awaken / living in tje presence.Reply Oct 12, 2013
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+Klue S. Will you be returning to us for the event tomorrow?? Your Enlightened need you!Reply Dec 13, 2013
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My dad say to me pay to play ingress you prove him wrong it is free to play this game klueReply Dec 23, 2013
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Love your post I like you am not understood fam is amazing some times life we have to b our self I have a new painting that I am working on the angle of Xmas!? Not sure let me knowReply Dec 27, 2013
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Zero it two month I got this game two months it say add account waldini it
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Someone asked me why I am going there, to Portland, putting myself at risk.
I know exactly what I’m walking into.
I am going into this eyes wide open. I am doing it because +Hank Johnson informed me that the future of human consciousness relies on this.
I am willing to put my free will, my mind and perhaps even my life at stake because I trust him, even though he is Enlightened...
Klue
I know exactly what I’m walking into.
I am going into this eyes wide open. I am doing it because +Hank Johnson informed me that the future of human consciousness relies on this.
I am willing to put my free will, my mind and perhaps even my life at stake because I trust him, even though he is Enlightened...
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+Chris Whittleston I think this has grown just a little beyond the whole Resistance/Enlightened bickering.Reply Jun 28, 2013
Funny how enlightened talk about choice, when they fight to prevent the people from being able to make their own choices. #resist the shaper mind control and their enlightened lackeysReply Jun 28, 2013
+Chris Whittleston she made her choice what enlightened are doing now is brainwashingReply Jun 28, 2013
Let's hope that there are enough skilled Enlightened agents there to help you see the truth #FreeKlueReply Jun 28, 2013
+Dom Armstrong I don't think it's about her seeing your truth anymore. This really seems like it's grown into something far greater.
To get hung up on the faction aspect seems a bit... petty, given the stakes that she's indicated.Reply Jun 28, 2013
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+Klue S. The +le bistro montage la merde in Portland, Or. is Amazing!!!! Definitely should be on the "must eat there" list!Reply Jun 28, 2013
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Freedom is only truly freedom when it comes from personal choice. It cannot be pushed upon, offered by, or forced upon one by another. Shaper propaganda will never offer true freedom.
Now, however, is not the time for philosophical bickering. For now, all should focus on saving +Klue S. from 855 and his NIA masters. The truth she holds is more important than our squabbles.Reply Jun 28, 2013
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I fear for +Klue S.
Her announced appearance at this anomaly unfortunately strikes the dark side of my intrigue.Reply Jun 28, 2013
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+Andrew Bone I agree. Like a sheep in a wolfs clothing. And yes i ment it in that orderReply Jun 28, 2013
+Andrew Bone NIA shut down the Niantic project at CERN, the agency itself is still very active.Reply Jun 28, 2013
Everyone in the #Resistance is worried that you may be getting in over your head. Just be careful out there, +Klue S.Reply Jun 28, 2013
speak for yourself, +Derek Allen . Klue knows what she's doing, the Portland Resistance has her back.Reply Jun 28, 2013
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True enough, +Scheurmann R. Good to know that there's backup in the Portland area for her visit. Still, +Klue S. be careful.Reply Jun 28, 2013
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This is a noble cause, +Klue S. You'll accomplish your goal, one way or another. I have this feeling we'll be seeing red with you, and I'm not talking about blood.Reply Jun 28, 2013
a few have been discussing here about this being above the faction "bickering" and so on - have the Portland groups done any cross faction planning, or is everyone still intent on faction side winning?Reply Jun 28, 2013
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Hmmmm Im thinking that would have worked on other battle grounds. but if nobody wins then dont the resistance win. Because think about it The Enlightened want to somehow make Klue Neutral so that she can really hear Jarvis's message with no filter. (unless there is an underlying bug we are not aware of is in the system and filters it anyways) So if all stay Neutral then nothing changes.Reply Jun 28, 2013
+Lukas Lentz how can you 'make' someone neutral when they've already made a choice? If you tried to force me to give up my faction, it would only succeed to strengthen my resolve to resist.Reply Jun 28, 2013
Wow, that just made me realize something. I just returned from New Orleans today. While there I took risks for portals that were way out of my norm and definitely out of my comfort level. I put myself at risk walking some streets in New Orleans by myself at night. I was in Jackson Square at 11:30 at night with homelessness surrounding me, yet I felt protected and compelled. I felt safe.
You will be protected, just as I was.Reply Jun 28, 2013
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+Valerie Wallace You cant. Thats why I went on my rant. The Enlightened started having the bidding wars with the corporations they said "Show me the color of your money" I dont think anyone "Enlightend or Resistance wanted that." the Enlightened because what do the non London Enlightened get. Nothing. And the Resistance didn't want it because nobody knows what the symbols are but they are valuable. So when a corporation starts fronting capital for something your not aware of what it is, especially if they make war items. You don't give in.
Then the London Enlightened Said they want Klue. Now go over to +The Enlightened 's page. Read the creepy stuff that octupi writes. So knowing they wanted Klue and that was their objective, being a non factioanl person. I got mad. I hate possession its evil and nasty. But if the dungeon masters were willing to throw the D6 on the idea, well they are the Dungeon Masters. So I said why not make her Neutral. Not that my saying anything means anything at all. My rants and opinions are just that.
So from what I have read from posts the Enlightened want a chance to "Show Klue the way" But if she has free will, then she will go her own way which as you say is resistance.
Would you rather have the dungon masters roll for her to be "obtained" as the creepy Octupi phrases it. I dont.
See I dont Kare if Klue is Blue or Green or Grey. I just Kare that she is breathing.Reply Jun 28, 2013
All I can say +Klue S. Is that with all +Hank Johnson 's ability to escape danger, he still seems to be drawn to xm power like a moth is drawn to a flame (if the "fictional" books I have read contain truth). So far you, Klue, have resisted that draw. Please be careful and continue to resist! Remember, history has shown that it is very hard to resist the temptation of power.Reply Jun 29, 2013
Given the recent outcome of anomalies, I trust the American Enlightened Agents to #freeklue and leave her a choice.Reply Jun 29, 2013
What's the problem? if enlightened win and +Klue S. is free to make her own choice, what's to say she won't choose you again? Is there a possibility she could choose impartiality and pure truth?Reply Jun 29, 2013
Whatever happens, I'm sure most of us for either side want +Klue S. to be safe, and the progression of truth to come out.Reply Jun 29, 2013
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Well there are two ways neutral can be used here that I see (I am sure there are more, there are always more perspectives :)
1. Neutral in the state of influence of a portal/xm - If we are to believe that portals, xm and faction control of portals and xm can sway judgement/control/influence, then having all portals neutral would give to a neutral influence (that would leave them to choose which faction, which the scanners impart; not factions, not people, but it is the GAME that makes us choose, if it wasn't, there would be a third choice for neutral)
2. Neutral as in choosing - if we go with game mechanics as they are now, unless you quit the game, there is no way to assume a neutral state. So if Klue (or anyone) is signed up with Ingress as resistance then she always will be registered as resistance unless she makes the switch or decides not to play the game and be either faction.Reply Jun 29, 2013
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Agents when an anomaly happens it is anything but random. So why mirror lake? What is the significance? Why there and not somewhere else? Could there be something in the history? Or some weird metaphor. Any ideas?Reply Jun 29, 2013
Mirror Lake is up on Mt. Hood, a dormant volcano. Perhaps a hot spot for XM as well as magma? +Klue S. The Pacific Northwest Enlightened are here to support you as you make this difficult and heroic decision. Please contact us if you need anything.Reply Jun 29, 2013
+Lukas Lentz the anomaly is actually expected in central Portland. The Lake was just a hideout...Reply Jun 29, 2013
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The lake is a natural feature so no xm, however it has claimed a few of my fishing lures.Reply Jun 29, 2013
+JoJo Stratton Perhaps I have an inaccurate idea concerning xm and the portals, but I do not see a "neutral" portal as something that is safe. I am under the impression that all xm is programmed by the Shapers to brainwash us to believe the Shapers. For this reason even neutral portals are used by the Shapers by default. The Shapers "gave" the Enlightened technology that greatly enhances the Shapers' ability to use the portals to brainwash us. We, the resistance, are using that technology after it has been re-engineered to suppress the influence of xm. We will only be safe once we know how to use xm to defend ourselves from what the Shapers, and probably other powers, have or will do with xm. Perhaps +Hank Johnson believes he will find good and benevolent Shapers that will show us how to do this. Perhaps that is why +Klue S. trusts him (as I admit I am tempted to do). But I see too many subtle, and not so subtle, characteristics in the Shapers and Enlightened dialogue to trust any xm. I am with Devra and perhaps ADA. By the way, for any who have thought of 855; if I go by the "books", the last thing I heard about 855 is that ADA is in the process of entering his brain-dead body. Is 855 who he was before the car hit him?...Reply Jun 29, 2013
What technology did the shapers give the enlightened? The scanner tech was made by nianticReply Jun 29, 2013
Ps i too believe in what Dr. Bogdanovich has stated. And i find i have a soft spot for ADAReply Jun 29, 2013
+JoJo Stratton My impression is that the Shapers used the powerful influence of the xm in the Niantic Lab to put the information concerning how to build the technology into the minds of those there who embraced it. Dr. Bogdanovich realized this was happening and realized the danger of where the xm influence was taking them. Thus she launched out on her mission of learning more about xm before embracing its influence.Reply Jun 29, 2013
Do you have a document or other NIantic reference that the shapers put the information into their brains? I believe some of the data was actually conceived much before the Niantic ProjectReply Jun 29, 2013
+JoJo Stratton My impression that the Shapers used the powerful xm exposure at Niantic lab at CERN to implant the scanner technology information into the minds of those there is the result of the following:
1. The documented experiences of Tycho, Felicia Hajra-Lee (and that professor and others that have been mentioned who I cannot remember at the moment) that have had information planted into their minds.
2. The Shapers own claim to have been "shaping" mankind throughout our history inferring that they have been "enhancing" our creativity and capabilities.
3. The message from the Shapers and their Enlightened that their intention is to continue to influence our minds in order to enhance us if we give in to their influence.
4. The information that those at CERN discovered ordered data in xm, and the similarities between Artificial Intelligence and human brains, as demonstrated by ADA's possible ingress into 855 non-functioning brain.
5. The descriptions of the events that took place at CERN including how exposure to xm influenced those who where there.
6. The "documents" describing +Hank Johnson 's seemingly supernatural, or mystical, drawing toward powerful xm sources. And REH, and HPL, Jim Bowie, and any others who were drawn by xm that I am not remembering. +Klue S. felt that drawing and resisted.
I agree that it would seem that some of the data was actually implanted into the minds of people earlier than when it was implanted into the minds of the researchers at Niantic, even perhaps in ancient societies. So much of "Mythology" and Lore refer to, or imply, that knowledge was implanted into the minds of individuals, that I am open to believe it. This only lets me know that it is possible that the Shapers have had their plan in process for a very long time. What happened at CERN is just another example to me of the fact that the Shapers could be using xm, perhaps by programming it, to influence our minds in ways we are not aware of, and do not know enough about. And that they "helped" those at CERN "discover" technology so that it could be used to increase the effectiveness of Portals so that the Shapers could increase the power of xm to influence all of us.Reply Jun 29, 2013
A few things:
1) INGRESS IS A GAME!!!!!!!
2) I think +Hank Johnson is worrying about the chances of Dark XM affecting the mass public.
3) Does anyone else want to see Niantic Labs's flowchart for these storyline XM Events. I bet it would be confusing.Reply Jun 29, 2013
+Brendan McKelvy LOL yes it IS a game :) but it is a fun game to get into character with, and I agree completely.Reply Jun 29, 2013
+Brendan McKelvy, +John Frazer, Ingress in not a game. http://www.nianticproject.com/?id=sc510a Don't let the wool be pulled over your eyes. The fate of the world is, by all means, at stake.Reply Jun 29, 2013
+Brendan McKelvy +John Frazer I have to agree with +Daniel Beaudoin it's not a game. I am not the only this has happened to
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Respect for your choice, I want to move to Portland too. I need a little bit of experience and skills and than... "Bye Bye Italy"Reply Oct 3, 2013
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From +Hulong Transglobal:
A recent uptick in Exotic Matter activity has enabled us to predict an XM Anomaly in Portland, Oregon, USA. We expect the Anomaly to occur in the early afternoon on Sunday, June 30th, 2013.
There are three separate clusters of Portals that we expect to be connected to this Anomaly.
Cluster 1 is nearby the Portland Art Museum, and consists of 23 Portals.
Cluster 2 is a group of 13 Portals, located near Chapman Square.
Cluster 3 is located near Pioneer Courthouse Square, and contains 15 Portals.
We intend to measure the Anomaly three times.
At each measurement window, only one of the 3 Clusters will be active.
Of the Portals in that Cluster, all but 5 will have a value of 2 for a Faction. The remaining 5 are expected to be unusually volatile, and will have a value of 5 for a Faction. Links connected to any Portals in a Cluster will have a value of 2.
We will be unable to predict these 5 volatile Portals until approximately 10 minutes before the measurement window begins, we will announce these 'Volatile Portals' via Google+ to keep Agents abreast.
Measurement Details:
The Anomaly will be measured three times, at 12:00 noon, 1:00 PM, and 2:00 PM local time.
Each measurement will take place at a random point within the first 5 minutes of the hour, i.e. somewhere between 12:00:00 and 12:05:00 for the Noon Measurement.
At each Measurement:
Ownership of a Portal in the Cluster being measured: 2
Links connected to Portals in the Cluster being measured: 2
Ownership of a Volatile Portal in the Cluster being measured: 5
Volatile Portals will be announced via Google+ approximately 10 minutes prior to Measurement window.
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We suppose whether you believe you need to #FreeKlue or #SaveKlue is a matter of your alignment. After the final Anomaly Measurement, Agents should head to
+Ground Kontrol Classic Arcade for debriefing -- the arcade is open to all ages until 5PM. A Portal map with additional details will be posted to the Google+ event page shortly. Niantic Labs' Agents +John Hanke, +Brian Rose, and +Joe Philley will be present. And COMM chatter indicates +Klue S. may have already arrived at PDX. Do let us know if you spot her by posting surveillance photos to the event page.
A recent uptick in Exotic Matter activity has enabled us to predict an XM Anomaly in Portland, Oregon, USA. We expect the Anomaly to occur in the early afternoon on Sunday, June 30th, 2013.
There are three separate clusters of Portals that we expect to be connected to this Anomaly.
Cluster 1 is nearby the Portland Art Museum, and consists of 23 Portals.
Cluster 2 is a group of 13 Portals, located near Chapman Square.
Cluster 3 is located near Pioneer Courthouse Square, and contains 15 Portals.
We intend to measure the Anomaly three times.
At each measurement window, only one of the 3 Clusters will be active.
Of the Portals in that Cluster, all but 5 will have a value of 2 for a Faction. The remaining 5 are expected to be unusually volatile, and will have a value of 5 for a Faction. Links connected to any Portals in a Cluster will have a value of 2.
We will be unable to predict these 5 volatile Portals until approximately 10 minutes before the measurement window begins, we will announce these 'Volatile Portals' via Google+ to keep Agents abreast.
Measurement Details:
The Anomaly will be measured three times, at 12:00 noon, 1:00 PM, and 2:00 PM local time.
Each measurement will take place at a random point within the first 5 minutes of the hour, i.e. somewhere between 12:00:00 and 12:05:00 for the Noon Measurement.
At each Measurement:
Ownership of a Portal in the Cluster being measured: 2
Links connected to Portals in the Cluster being measured: 2
Ownership of a Volatile Portal in the Cluster being measured: 5
Volatile Portals will be announced via Google+ approximately 10 minutes prior to Measurement window.
:EOM
We suppose whether you believe you need to #FreeKlue or #SaveKlue is a matter of your alignment. After the final Anomaly Measurement, Agents should head to
+Ground Kontrol Classic Arcade for debriefing -- the arcade is open to all ages until 5PM. A Portal map with additional details will be posted to the Google+ event page shortly. Niantic Labs' Agents +John Hanke, +Brian Rose, and +Joe Philley will be present. And COMM chatter indicates +Klue S. may have already arrived at PDX. Do let us know if you spot her by posting surveillance photos to the event page.
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+Klue S. why do you sound so scared. The only thing that freaks me out is the sponsorship of this event. What does +Hulong Transglobal have to do with this?Reply Jun 27, 2013
+Klue S. I would help if I could, but I'm too far away. Don't worry, everything is going to turn out fine.Reply Jun 27, 2013
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Ohh mirror lake.... I think I understand now. Klue don't go!!!!! Stay as far away as possible.Reply Jun 28, 2013
we know this isn't just a game, The GFL will be monitoring your movements during this event to ensure your safety. if the Cabal makes any moves on you they will be meet by swift resistance from the Galactic federation of light. Lord Commander Merlin Defango outReply Jun 28, 2013
I wish I came, but for one thing I didn't have a smartphone in which I could get the ingress app. I'll be getting a smartphone in March though.Reply Jan 27, 2014
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I know what I am getting into. I've seen what's on the other side, but this is beyond me and my well being.
I'm doing this because it would be an immeasurable danger to all of us if if the corporations got their hands on the glyphs.
I need your help in Portland, OR, USA on Sunday June 30. I know we'll prevail.
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I know what I am getting into. I've seen what's on the other side, but this is beyond me and my well being.
I'm doing this because it would be an immeasurable danger to all of us if if the corporations got their hands on the glyphs.
I need your help in Portland, OR, USA on Sunday June 30. I know we'll prevail.
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Portland will be well protected. Our Enlightened agents will be ready. See you soon.Reply Jun 26, 2013
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The Portland Resistance is here for you, +Klue S. Just let us know what you need.Reply Jun 26, 2013
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Klue, is there a reason you distrust the corporations? Do you believe they are being manipulated by someone (or something)?
Regardless, the #Resistance will be there to assist you, Klue. We have prepared our own message to rally whatever support you may need. Look for it over the next few days.+Niantic Project, you may be interested in this.
Resist ADA, +Nikolas Moore? I don't think you'll have to worry about that, unless you're a brain-dead assassin who tried to kill Klue. Wonder what the new 855 will do next...Reply Jun 26, 2013
Enjoy the scenery out there +Klue S. Find the truth, and the agents will do the rest.Reply Jun 26, 2013
+AgentsForADA As at least one, if not all 3, corporations showed a willingness to sell their allegiance based on the potential gain that having the glyphs poses. It's clear their intentions are not to be trusted. That alone suggests to me that they shouldn't have them.Reply Jun 26, 2013
Be careful +Klue S. they are still trying to find you be sure to find the local Resistance agents to help keep you safe :) God Speed!Reply Jun 26, 2013
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too bad it is in Oregon and not Wisconsin I would love to meet +Klue S. and help her in her endeavours :)Reply Jun 26, 2013
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+Klue S. If you need a place to hide, escape to Germany and you can hide at my Place ;DReply Jun 27, 2013
I'm a Portland enlightened and klue we are here to help you. Hopefully you'll have an oppourtunity to reconsider your alignments.Reply Jun 27, 2013.webp)
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She was under a misapprehension in Scotland, hopefully we can help her here in Portland.Reply Jun 27, 2013
+rugged nw The Resistance is willing to help you see the true path from your false prophets and jon the Resistance but alas if you refuse to join the Resistance there is no hope for you and your help is not needed.Reply Jun 27, 2013
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and in the back of my mind I hear my conscience call
Telling me I need a girl who's as sweet as a dove
for the first time in my life, I see I need +Klue S. love...
Now let's quit acting the maggot and fleck off with those gobshites in the blue tent. They want you to be what you were, we want you to experience what you can become!
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I have trudged snowbanks in the middle of January gaining portals and valuable mind units all for the greater future, the enlightenment. My eyes have been opened, I was blind, but now I see with a new vision. We are here to help you klue, and hopefully correct the miscommunication of Scotland. Portland is my home. I have been to mirror lake many times.Reply Jun 27, 2013
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Enlightened is a prison that is set to serve the Shapers while the Resistance remains free.Reply Jun 27, 2013
Turn that question on it's head +Marlon Jones: Are you truly enlightened? Or are the shapers simply feeding you the information they want you to believe? In order to control you? There are many ways to look at all sides of the argument...Reply Jun 27, 2013
Sadly, we're on the opposite side of the country. Still, there should be interesting developments ahead. Be safe, Klue.Reply Jun 27, 2013
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